Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/06/27

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Subject: [Leica] 50mm F1.4 redux, or on the need for speed.
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Sun Jun 27 00:35:02 2004
References: <BD035A9B.675F%s.dimitrov@charter.net>

There are plenty of dishonest things which are not illegal.
Frank


On 27 Jun, 2004, at 00:53, Slobodan Dimitrov wrote:

> Photographers are like crabs in a bucket, crawling over one another, 
> every
> ready to undercut the other person.
> As far as a union is concerned, The Newspaper Guild used to handle the 
> PJ
> photographers, but with very poor and weak representation. They've 
> recently
> been absorbed by the CWA, Communication Workers of America, an AFL-CIO
> affiliate. The AP's shooters are all CWA. Somewhat like a shop union, 
> you
> have to join when you start working.
> As far as the studio shooters are concerned, that's IATSI, usually 
> referred
> to as IA. One becomes a member by shooting X amount of time on 
> non-union
> jobs, that's right scab jobs, before one is qualified to be initiated 
> into
> the IA.
> Also, the producer is the one hiring you, and you own none of the work 
> you
> produce, ever. As they represent the pinnacle, or at least own of the 
> peaks,
> of the industry, they are proof that organized crime was never able to 
> make
> inroads into the movie business. Was there supposed to be wink there? 
> Naw!
> Maybe not.
> S. Dimitrov
>
>
>> From: Feli di Giorgio <feli@creocollective.com>
>> Organization: Creo
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Date: 26 Jun 2004 13:38:48 -0700
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] 50mm F1.4 redux, or on the need for speed.
>>
>> On Fri, 2004-06-25 at 18:09, Slobodan Dimitrov wrote:
>>> It's kind of hard to retire on slave or form W2 wages.
>>> S. Dimitrov
>>
>> Ok, I really have no idea how all of this works, but I have been 
>> reading about
>> how the wages for photographers have fallen through the floor and how 
>> the
>> current
>> contract are fairly draconian etc. If this is such a huge problem, 
>> why don't
>> the
>> shooters form a guild or union or something? Am I barking up the 
>> wrong tree?
>> Here in Hollywood everyone is in a guild or union or something.
>>
>> Just a question.
>>
>> Feli
>>
>>
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In reply to: Message from s.dimitrov at charter.net (Slobodan Dimitrov) ([Leica] 50mm F1.4 redux, or on the need for speed.)