[Leica] C41 B&W?

[jls at runbox.com (Jeffery Smith)]

Lack of grain is probably the only advantage that chromogenic B&W has over 
the color, but the ability to manipulate shades of color to darken and 
lighten grays is a huge benefit for Sonny's method.

At 08:55 AM 6/10/2004, you wrote:
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>It has been about two years since I shot a roll of black and  white (C41)
>film, and maybe ten or more years since I shot any silver based  B&W.
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>While I like the results from XP2 and and love Portra BW results, I cannot
>see enough advantage to them over using Fuji Color products and  converting.
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>Most of my stuff is shot on plain old Fuji 8oo Superia xtra, less than $10
>for four rolls.  Sometimes, if I need 36 exposures, I buy Press, which is
>supposed to be the same recipe.
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>I've used the higher end NPZ 800, (all those Germany shots were that) and I
>think it is a better product, but I don't think $3 per roll extra better.
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>I routinely combine digital and film for magazine work,   In  this set of
>duotones you'll be able to tell the shots apart because of  the 15mm 
>lens.  I use
>film for stuff my digital camera cannot do.
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>http://www.sonc.com/duo.htm
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>If you look around through my stuff, you'll see a number of B&W,  changed
>from colour.  I do not follow one particular path.  Just for  me, I think 
>the
>duotone gives me most control.  YMMV.
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>Regards,
>
>Sonny
>http://www.sonc.com
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>In a message dated 6/10/2004 8:22:07 AM Central Standard Time,
>mark@rabinergroup.com writes:
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>As I am forced to shoot color when I shoot digital as there is no  
>monochrome
>setting I was forced to get used to it but I took to it like a  fish to
>architecture.. Somewhere along the way I was also acclimated to  using Fuji
>NPZ color neg 800 as my all around film. Printing it monochrome,  duo 
>chrome,
>you name it chrome at will. I enjoy the increase of information  I get by
>shooting with media which is aware of chroma. I'm thinking of  experimenting
>with the Fuji Superior films with the idea of using the 100  on my backdrop
>and the 800 all around. I'm not sure how they well stack up  to the
>professional films; the NPC 160 and NPZ 800 which I've been using  and will
>continue to use in 220. It seems they might cost half as much.  Film feels
>expensive when you are more used to not having to pay for it. As  in 
>shooting
>digital.
>I do have problems with cropping film to a  panoramic format. It has to be
>set up like that in the first place.  Viewfinder, back and all. I can't 
>waste
>it.
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>Regards,
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>Sonny
>_http://www.sonc.com_ (http://www.sonc.com/)
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