Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/06/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]No. -----Original Message----- From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf Of animal Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 3:34 PM To: Leica Users Group Subject: Re: [Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos \i,m suprised by the anti war statements made on this list .I can clearly remember the days when the campaign was still debated and the bellicose sentiment in this group.Quite apparent to a European opposer like me.Now that you have your troops there shouldn,t you be a bit more supportive? simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:17 PM Subject: RE: [Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos > You're preaching to the choir on this one, Phong - I made the point I > made because AFTER the WMD excuse was shown to be a lie, then they > switched to the new excuse. So I am saying, okay, let's look at the > new excuse...in light of Abu Ghraib. But you are absolutely right > about the government lying to us about going to war. What I'd like to > know is what the vote in Congress would have been without the WMD > lies... > > -----Original Message----- > From: lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org > [mailto:lug-bounces+bdcolen=earthlink.net@leica-users.org] On Behalf > Of Phong > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 2:09 PM > To: Leica Users Group > Subject: RE: [Leica] Susan Sontag on Iraq Photos > > > B. D. Colen wrote: > > The point some people seem to miss in all this is that, now that > > eliminating WMDs is no longer being given as the cause for this war, > > bringing American Democracy and values to the Arab world IS being > > given as the rationale. So the question is this: ... > > Speaking for myself, I would rather not switch topics. > The fact of the matter to me is that I was told the imminent threat of > WMD _was_ the reason we went to war with Iraq. You switch topics, and > you let the current administration evade the fact that they _lied_ to > us. War is horror, but we went to war for a lie and a gallon of gas ? > > I hate to say this, but, Vietnam again, anyone ? The government lied > to us about going to war. I don't want us to forget that. I don't > want them to forget that. > > - Phong > > P.S. I, for sure, know the dubious benefit of some attemots to bring > American Democracy to the 3rd world. While I cherish the American > Democracy, I deplore the way we very hypocritically use it as a shield > for other gains. > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information _______________________________________________ Leica Users Group. See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information