Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/11/25
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Oh, I see, He-Who-Shoots-Off-His-Mouth-With-Utterly-No-Experience-On Which-To-Base-His-Inane-Statements - Now we've gone from one tv station in San Diego, to "tv stations here." And the comment is based on what, two, perhaps three, observations? Did it perhaps occur to you that you might have been observing particularly officious reporters? Or that you might have been observing reporters and videographers working together for the first time? Or that you might have been observing reporters working with videographers new to the station, a situation where the reporter might be nervous about the capabilities of the videographers. While you may know a great deal about the ins and outs of engineering practices, if I were you I'd defer to Sonny when it comes to commenting on anything related to photojournalism - he knows something about the subject. B. D. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry Lehrer Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 10:43 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] DEADLINE I*AQ -answering Jerry's inane remark Sonny No, sonny-boy, I have seen how they work here in San Diego. The TV cameraman just aims the camera where he/ she is told to. Your contention may very well be true in other areas. Please notice that I said that TV stations HERE, do that. Other places do have true PJs. You, very well, may be one of them. Jerry Sonny Carter wrote: > Monday, November 24, 2003, 5:15:55 PM, you wrote: > > JL> Sonny > > JL> Some TV stations here have the nerve to call the camera holders > JL> "Photo Journalists"! All they do is point the camera where the > JL> reporter or director tells them to! > > JL> Jerry > > Jerry, > > I like to think you are wrong about that. If you have that attitude, > you denigrate some really fine journalists who happen to be > photographers rather than reporters. > > Many times, the photographer is the one to get the story, a producer > writes it and an anchor reads it. > > That said, in many many markets there is no team, just the > reporter/cameraman (one person) out there doing the job. > > For a number of years, I covered the Louisiana Legislature without a > reporter along. I covered the Clay Shaw Trial in New Orleans without > a reporter. I covered the Black Panther Shoot-out in Desire Project > without a reporter. > > I covered the Christmas Day fire in New Orleans that killed three > firemen without a reporter. > > There were many more instances, but it was more often me showing the > reporter what to do than the other way around. > > Finally, I would tell you that when I worked on the Jim Metcalf > Journal at WWL-TV, I would shoot the piece, and Jim would look at my > film and write the story. For work like that we won one of Channel > 4's several Peabody Awards. > > Sonny > http://www.sonc.com > > JL> Sonny Carter wrote: > > >> Hello Tim, > >> > >> I'd like to point out that in television "Camera operators" > >> designates fixed camera positions, such as you might find in a > >> studio. > >> > >> Although I am no longer in that number, even though we stopped > >> using motion picture film for news coverage, those of us who > >> continued with video camera, continued to call ourselves news > >> photographers. A few use the term "news videographer." > >> > >> I know you want to maintain accuracy. > >> > >> Sonny > >> > >> Monday, November 24, 2003, 4:04:30 PM, you wrote: > >> > >> TA> Those of you north of the border (or south who are close enough > >> TA> to it to get > >> TA> CBC) - this is a very compelling documentary about news gathering in the > >> TA> Ira* Wa*. > >> > >> TA> "These are the stories that weren't't told by the media during > >> TA> the Ira* wa*. CBC NEWS goes straight to the source, to > >> TA> journalists, camera operators and photographers from news > >> TA> organizations around the world, who reveal the lethal risks > >> TA> they faced, as well as the untold horrors they witnessed." > >> > >> TA> There was a one hour version on last night. The full two hour > >> TA> version is supposed on next Sunday on CBC at 10pm I think. > >> > >> TA> tim > >> > >> TA> -- > >> TA> To unsubscribe, see > >> TA> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Sonny mailto:sonc@sonc.com > >> > >> -- > >> To unsubscribe, see > >> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > JL> -- > JL> To unsubscribe, see > JL> http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > Best regards, > Sonny mailto:sonc@sonc.com > > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html