Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/11/18
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Kit, First of all this is in no way an attack on people of islamic faith nor on people with aa other ethnic background then my own "I think that they are definetly they" I have no respect nor can I in any way feel sorry for people who kills inocent women and children I have no respect for people that proclaims a fatwa on you if you critises their religion Why is it that all muslim countries are poor Why is it when a country becomes muslim it turns even poorer Why is it that in Muslim states analfabetism is so much higher then in other societys Why is it that no Mulsim state practice basic Human rights Why is it that the royal family of Saudi Arabia spend 250 mi USD on sommer hollyday in spain ech year and the al queda bombs western targets I do not find that I have problems with freedom of speech - I do think that woman have the same rights as me I dont want to force feed "them" anything - I they are just as stupid after 300 years behind closed doors then fine with me but please do not force me to deal with individuals who totally lack respect for what I stand for. I think that blaming USA for all evil is far out and I think that so much good has happend because of the USA You can vote - you can get your neigbour to vote - you can stop ignoring homless people - you can accept paying more taxes and get better welfare - - you are a part of a great nation and have a responsibility to keep on making it a greater nation - but only because you are a part of a free world What is by the way wrong in sharing that with other nations Your current president may be a jerk but if it had not been for USA the whole world would either been Nazi or Communist You should be damn proud of that and you should be proud that you live in a part of the world were if you really want you can make a difference Kit McChesney wrote: >RUBEN BLĘDEL wrote: > >"Kit and everybody else on this subject > >Living in europe islamic fundamentalisme and terrorism is a little to close >for comfort - soul search or not, our democracy is an endangered way of >thinking when a corner of the world armed with suicide bombers does not >share the virtues of the right to be speak freely - believe in what god you >want - equally rights for womans etc. And no it probably does not help to >kill them, but it sure would be great if one could shot some kind of door >and open it again in about 2or 300 years when they have come to their >senses." > >-- > >With all due respect, this "solution"--closing the door and opening it in >300 years--is what we have already done, and is exactly why we are where we >are now. The "haves" have shut so many "have-nots" behind the door for so >long and kept them there, that they are fed up with it and want to get out >and enjoy what a precious few in the world have enjoyed for so long: >education, adequate housing, food, economic justice. Terrorism is a symptom >of a deeper problem, one that will not be cured by imposing (read: >force-feeding) our "values" (whatever those are) on the rest of the world, >whether they like it or not. Never mind all the terror that we create around >the world, masquerading under some other euphemism. > >As for "fundamentalism," we have our own problems here with another kind of >fundamentalism that tries to restrict the rights of our citizens ... freedom >of speech, equal rights for all people, women and minorities and others who >refuse to adhere to patriarchal ideology and control, included. > >"They" will not come to their senses in 300 years. There is no "they." They >have much more in common with "us" than most of "us" are willing to admit! > >I guess I've really done it now, haven't I! Now everyone knows I'm an >Aquarian! And I listen to NPR and watch Charlie Rose every night, too! ;-) > >Kit > > > >-- >To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html