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Subject: Re: [Leica] Is It "analog" or Is It Digital?
From: "Jean-Michel Tomaschett" <jx@bluewin.ch>
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 02:00:30 +0200
References: <NCEJJENJLHLOMAKOBEJGIEGBDIAA.randy@jamzcheer.com> <01b301c35ba5$0f008690$6401a8c0@Jack> <014201c35ba7$47f39e40$0100000a@privatmqfutom5> <01f501c35baa$f804fbf0$6401a8c0@Jack>

after my troubling many luggers with mechanical watches, it is not my
intention to launch a discussion about acoustical recordings. It is just
amazing that a lot of the so called "dead" technologies are still working
fine for the conaisseurs. And I am sure not all of them are members of the
"Flat Earth society" ;-)

Regards

Jean-Michel, usually speaking anything but English



- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jack McLain" <jmclainaz@comcast.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Is It "analog" or Is It Digital?


> not true... I am certainly no proponent of "digital" music, but it does
> exist.  Digital "tone generators" are relatively common especially in pop
> music and increasingly in avant garde classical music.  No acoustic sound
> whatsoever emits from the "instrument".  The sounds are entirely in the
> digital field.  I hate the stuff (being a drummer, I especially hate "drum
> machines").
>
> and yes.. a high-end turntable beats even a high-end CD player in warmth
and
> some inexpressible attributes that you have to hear in a well tuned room
to
> appreciate.
>
> I lost ~2 thousand LPs in a divorce..... ouch.  I'm a CD spinner now.
> sigh......
>
> cheers
> Jack
> Jack McLain
> Tucson, AZ
> http://jackmclain-photography.dotcommunity.net
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jean-Michel Tomaschett" <jx@bluewin.ch>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Is It "analog" or Is It Digital?
>
>
> > Picture or music, the source is always analog.
> > Vinyl records compares to film.
> > CD's compare to digital photography.
> > Psychoacoustics compares to
> > I always preferred the sound of good vinyl records on a high-end system.
> > Psychoacoustics compares to optical psychoperception.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Jean-Michel
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jack McLain" <jmclainaz@comcast.net>
> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Is It "real photography" or Is It Digital?
> >
> >
> > > Yes indeed... it is why so many of us audiophiles spend big-bucks to
> > listen
> > > to mucic through tube amps (even tube analog stages on CD players).
It
> > > seems that each digital link that can be replaced with an analog link
> > > improves the sound (or makes it less "digital").
> > >
> > > The analogy with digital photography vs. film photography is very apt.
> > > cheers
> > > Jack
> > > Jack McLain
> > > Tucson, AZ
> > > http://jackmclain-photography.dotcommunity.net
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Randy Jensen" <randy@jamzcheer.com>
> > > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:18 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [Leica] Is It "real photography" or Is It Digital?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Excellent question.  The analogy that works for me is the tube-mic
> Dolby
> > > SR
> > > > analog recorded audio performance.  Yes, you listen to it on CD, but
> it
> > > > absolutely sounds different than if it was recorded "all digital."
> > > >
> > > > There's a good reason vintage tube mics and compressors sell for so
> much
> > > > money.  They keep trying to emulate them digitally, and they're
> getting
> > > > better, but they still don't cut it.
> > > >
> > > > Randy
> > > > www.randyjensenphoto.com
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Buzz
> > > > Hausner
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:43 PM
> > > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > > Subject: [Leica] Is It "real photography" or Is It Digital?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pardon this luddite's stony ignorance, but aren't they all digital
on
> a
> > > > computer?
> > > >
> > > > Buzz Hausner
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of
> Saganich,
> > > > Christopher/Medical Physics
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:22 PM
> > > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > > Subject: RE: [Leica] "real photography"
> > > >
> > > > Here is a good example: can you tell if this is film or digital?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.28mm.org/gallery.php?artist=emesegaal&issue=9
> > > >
> > > > Chris Saganich
> > > >
> > > >
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In reply to: Message from "Randy Jensen" <randy@jamzcheer.com> (RE: [Leica] Is It "real photography" or Is It Digital?)
Message from "Jack McLain" <jmclainaz@comcast.net> (Re: [Leica] Is It "real photography" or Is It Digital?)
Message from "Jean-Michel Tomaschett" <jx@bluewin.ch> (Re: [Leica] Is It "analog" or Is It Digital?)
Message from "Jack McLain" <jmclainaz@comcast.net> (Re: [Leica] Is It "analog" or Is It Digital?)