Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/03/13

[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]

Subject: Re: [Leica] Autofocus Leica R
From: "lea" <lea@whinydogpress.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:18:57 -0600
References: <00c801c2e997$90f935a0$0316fea9@ccasony01>

<<Do folks who can't see live in what we perceive as "darkness"?>>

<< Yes, Kit, they do. It's not what "we perceive" as darkness. It IS, by
definition, darkness.>>

Not according to my blind friend...completely blind since birth, she sees
colors. The reason she knows is because not everything she sees is the same
tone, shade, color.

My mother spent many years volunteering here in Kansas City at
CCVI...Children's Center for the Visually Impared...a special school
catering to the needs of blind children. I had occasion to visit there often
and it was there that I learned very few people are truly blind. Most blind
people see color or tone or shade. Some see shape and shadow depending on
the light. And yes, these people are considered 100% blind.

You can think what you like about deaf people not writing, playing or
hearing music and blind people not shooting, drawing or painting pictures
but I can tell you I've not met a single blind person who hasn't been able
to do anything they put their mind to. That includes the young blind woman
who lived with my parents for a year as a house guest...the same person I
speak of above...she went to college, lived alone for many years (moved in
to my parents' home while getting her masters degree) works for Camp Fire
Girls and organized many events...including nature walks for young children.
She is an amazing woman. I'd be the last person (well, Kit and I might tie
here) to tell her she couldn't photograph if she thought she could.

Lea

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] Autofocus Leica R


> ROFLOL!!!
>
> Yes, Kit, they do. It's not what "we perceive" as darkness. It IS, by
definition, darkness.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Kit McChesney
| acmefoto
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 12:03 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Autofocus Leica R
>
>
> George--
>
> What difference does age make? Or if the person was blind from birth?
Since images are themselves "created" in the mind anyway, is the ability to
visualize predicated on having had conventional sight, that is, using one's
eyes to see, or is it an ability that is innate? Do folks who can't see live
in what we perceive as "darkness"?
>
> Kit ;-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of George
Lottermoser
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 9:22 AM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: RE: [Leica] Autofocus Leica R
>
>
> kitmc@acmefoto.com (Kit McChesney | acmefoto)3/12/03
>
> >I beg to differ that a blind person cannot see, or visualize. Just ask
> >a blind person.
>
> Which sort of Blind Person?
> Blind from birth?
> Blinded at age 18?
> Blinded at age 65?
>
> <€>Peace<€>   <€>Harmony<€>  <€>Stewardship<€>
>
> Presenting effective messages in beautiful ways
>                                      since 1975
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> G e o r g e   L o t t e r m o s e r,    imagist
> _______________________________________________
> eMail                    imagist@concentric.net
> voice                              262 241 9375
> fax                                262 241 9398
>                       Lotter Moser & Associates
> 10050 N Port Washington Rd  -  Mequon, WI 53092
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> --
> To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html
>
> --
> To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html
>
> --
> To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html
>
>

- --
To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html

In reply to: Message from "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> (RE: [Leica] Autofocus Leica R)