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Subject: Re: [Leica] Help on Using flash Sf 20
From: "Greg J. Lorenzo" <gregj.lorenzo@shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 16:19:40 -0700
References: <NDEIJCBGJPIEPDFEENCMEECHCLAA.kitmc@acmefoto.com>

Please don't post those photos here!

Kit McChesney | acmefoto wrote:

>Yes, those "family assignments" can be the most stressful of all! If those
>don't come out, you have the wrath of your family to bear for the next 1000
>years! Nightmares with subtitles like, "you messed up the pictures of the
>kids' birthday parties! Now we'll never be able to remember what happened!
>;-)
>
>When my son was born, his father took it upon himself to photograph the
>birth. He was not a photographer (to say the least!), and forgot to focus (I
>guess he was distracted?). We have some very nice abstract images of who
>knows what? They look like very out-of-focus pictures of a bowl of peaches!
>
>Kit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Ernest
>Nitka
>Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 3:30 PM
>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>Subject: Re: [Leica] Help on Using flash Sf 20
>
>
>Like the time that I needed a flash for my #1 son's graduation from HS
>party at the fancy Italian restaurant.  I was using the hexar RF and I
>just assumed I could slap on the SF 20 and use it in A (uto)
>mode......... stupid to use combos without testing....... Nah nothing
>bad happened = pics came out fine, everyone had a great time.  But it
>is scary to think that I did that!!!   :)
>
>
>ernie
>On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 05:10 PM, Kit McChesney | acmefoto wrote:
>
>>Ernie--
>>
>>Yes, indeed. When you operate the camera without film, it doesn't
>>exactly
>>default to 100 ISO. It only flashes 100 to show you that you have no
>>film in
>>the camera, telling you that it doesn't really know what you're trying
>>to
>>shoot. Take some test shots and see how it works before you're under
>>pressure--like, for the three-year-olds' birthday parties! ;-)
>>
>>Kit
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>>[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Ernest
>>Nitka
>>Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 2:46 PM
>>To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
>>Subject: Re: [Leica] Help on Using flash Sf 20
>>
>>
>>Rolfe - I just now figured out what my problem is.....   You have to
>>have film in the camera - you can't test it without film.  Once I took
>>the bold step of actually putting film in it did fine - the only time
>>that it said there was NOT enough exposure the distance was in fact
>>greater than the rec. distance.
>>
>>ernie
>>On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 04:24 PM, Rolfe Tessem wrote:
>>
>>>Ernest Nitka wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have an M7 with the SF 20 flash unit - I 'm not sure it's working
>>>>or that I know what I'm doing.  I don't do much flash work which is
>>>>why I need help.
>>>>i attache the SF 20 to the M7 , turn both on with the SF20 being set
>>>>to TTL.  Camera has no film in it so it defaults to ISO 100 I would
>>>>suspect.  My question is that when i shoot towards a wall of books
>>>>abut 8 feet away at f/4 neither the SF20 or the M7 indicate that it
>>>>was an adequate exposure ( the flash icon goes away immediated and
>>>>the 'ok' LED on SF 20 does not lite up)  the SF20 is set on f/4.  why
>>>>is this because prior to shooting the SF20 says i should be ok up to
>>>>16 feet ( GN=66/4 =~ 16).  I have to open up to f/2.8 to get both the
>>>>SF20 and M7 to say that there was adequate exposure.  What am I doing
>>>>wrong?
>>>>
>>>Ernie,
>>>
>>>The thing that is not clear from the SF20 manual is that in TTL mode,
>>>you don't have to set *anything* on the flash at all. It picks up all
>>>the information it needs from the camera. The aperture setting on the
>>>flash is for information only, just so you will know what distance
>>>ranges are possible at what apertures but you don't usually need to
>>>consult it at all.
>>>
>>>So, I'm not sure that you *are* doing anything wrong...
>>>
>>>Rolfe
>>>
>>>--
>>>Rolfe Tessem      |     Lucky Duck Productions, Inc.
>>>rolfe@ldp.com     |     96 Morton Street
>>>(212) 463-0029    |     New York, Ny 10014
>>>
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