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Subject: RE: OT Re: [Leica] Digital - Rumor Mongering apologies to Mark R.
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 15:52:51 -0500

Boy, I hope the medical info. in that book is dated - King had the
surgery in '82 and the book came out a decade ago... ;-)

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jerry
Lehrer
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 1:29 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: OT Re: [Leica] Digital - Rumor Mongering apologies to Mark
R.


BD

You are a man after my own heart!  Don Rickles would be proud to know
you.

Speaking of hearts, I just started re-reading the book you wrote for
Larry King on his heart attacks.  Since the time that I first read it, I
had my own MI which resulted in a stent installation.  5 years ago, and
no problems.

My cardiologist at UCSD said that a tremendous amount of progress has
been made since that book was written.

Jerry


bdcolen wrote:

> Greg - Why be so amazingly disingenuous as to sign such a 
> supercilious, pointedly nasty personal attack "regards?" Stick to your

> guns, man! If you're going to take eight paragraphs to write "fuck 
> you," sign off with something honest, such as "So there, you asshole!"

> ;-)
>
> With utterly no regard,
> B. D.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Greg J. 
> Lorenzo
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 6:24 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: OT Re: [Leica] Digital - Rumor Mongering apologies to Mark R.
>
> Hi B.D.,
>
> Lets see if I can sum up your latest missive:
>
> In Paragraph 1: you are informing me "that this discussion had only 
> ended". (I assume you meant to say "had not only ended" ?)
>
> What you're really saying is that YOU had decided it had "ended" and 
> why
>
> did I dare to catch up on postings YOU had already decided had ended 
> and
>
> post. I guess you also decided that all the waaay OT Iraq crap you 
> continued to post last week (after the List Moderator requested that 
> you
>
> stop) was still "On Topic" and "Open" for continued posts because YOU 
> had decided it was?
>
> In Paragraph 2: You continue to attempt to rationalize your completely

> and continually irrational behavior of interjecting into posts 
> demanding
>
> that certain poster's reveal all of their suspect "commercial 
> affiliations" because B.D. always does this and says so.
>
> In Paragraph 3: You're addressing someone named "Chris" to insist that

> all you've done is "suggested that we be upfront. Not that I have any 
> power over anyone; not that this is MY LIST; not that I MAKE THE 
> RULES".
>
> In summary: Why don't YOU reread YOUR OWN WORDS again in all three 
> Paragraphs below, starting in reverse order 3, 2, 1, just to see if 
> you may in fact be violating YOUR OWN RULES?
>
> B.D., respectfully, why don't your get yourself a dog, cat, fish, or 
> some other interest and thereby spend less time making rules and 
> posting demands of people on the LUG all day?
>
> This is my last post on this subject.
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
> bdcolen wrote:
>
> >It's quite simple, Greg - although if you had bothered to read the 
> >time
>
> >on posts you would have seen that this discussion had only ended, it 
> >had long ended in far more calm and collegial way than that in which 
> >you've decided to revive it...
> >
> >The point is that as we are constantly giving each other advise 
> >regarding commercial products - and many of us are factoring that 
> >advice into purchasing decisions - its really nothing more than 
> >simple good manners to tell each other if we have what might be 
> >perceived as conflicts of interest.
> >
> >BTW, Chris, all I've suggested is that we be upfront. Not that I have

> >any power over anyone; not that this is my list; not that I make the 
> >rules. All I did was ask a few questions and make a suggestion.I 
> >wonder
>
> >if you've ever given any thought to the possibility that an outburst 
> >such as yours - with its offensive religious references and hectoring

> >tone - could lead one to wonder why you find the idea of being 
> >upfront with people so, uh, troubling?  ;-)
> >
> >Best,
> >
> >B. D.
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Greg J.

> >Lorenzo
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:13 AM
> >To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> >Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital - Rumor Mongering apologies to Mark R.
> >
> >
> >bdcolen wrote in part:
> >
> >>I am not questioning Tina's beliefs.
> >>
> >No your not, your doing something infinitely worse. By your words and

> >innuendo YOU are implying that Tina has an ulterior motive for 
> >posting her opinion and experiences.
> >
> >>But as I have made quite clear here before, given that we are all 
> >>friends trading information
> >>
> >My point exactly. This isn't the Journal of the American Medical 
> >Association or even Consumer Reports and you're are not Mike Wallace 
> >doing a segment on Sixty Minutes! Its the Leica Users Group and we
> don't
> >
> >need a self appointed policeman. If you, or anyone else, wishes to 
> >disclose that they have received a camera, lens or some other trinket

> >from Canon, Fuji or Leica that's their business.
> >
> >What I'd like to know is why YOU think that YOU need to come charging

> >into ongoing discussions like Christ to cleanse the Temple and 
> >suggest that there is something disreputable about a person because 
> >they
> haven't
> >
> >disclosed something that YOU believe is germane?
> >
> >At best this type of behavior is bad manners.
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Greg
> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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