Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2000/08/07

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Subject: Re: [Leica] flare in shadows
From: ralph fuerbringer <>
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 15:16:54 -0400

 i formally challenged ed meyers to duel on extra free density with uncoated
optics.  i have both versions of the sonnar f1.5 in contax mts, he has a
gismo to put them on the leica rf. i offered to do the tests or let him do
it. i suggested provira 100f as it is
a new emulsion (also was free) and presumedly free of halation  in case that
was tied to past illusionary results.etc. flatiron(cheap) processing would
also eliminate variables in film processing etc. lets face it ed is yellow.
 declined to test, said he was talking b&w. i replied i was talking
photographic emulsions devoid of processing manipulations,etc.
mark is right: his remark below is prime snide.
we'll let mark decide if i replied competently.   ralph

> From: Mark Rabiner <>
> Reply-To:
> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 10:48:05 -0700
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Leica] flare in shadows
> Edward Meyers wrote:
>> Sorry Ralph, I'll vote for Bruce Davidson's photography
>> over yours. He has prints to show, not test charts.
>> Best, Ed
> Bruce Davidson is a great photographer who no one wants to get compared to.
> But this idea of using low contrast optics as if they increased film speed was
> a
> cult trend of its time.
> I'm sure Bruce lived to go past that concept and learn to do more with
> snappier lenses.
> Mark Rabiner