Re: [Leica] OT: Quality limits with Epson 1270

[John Coan <jcoan@alumni.duke.edu>]

Dan,
Thanks for the info.  That *is* a big difference in price.  Another 
question, I am seriously looking at upgrading my P200 pro computer next 
fall and getting a powerful graphics processor and one of these Epson 
printers.  If I replace my good old HP 970, will the Epson also do the more 
mundane tasks like printing letters and Quicken checks?  My space is limited.

I plan on having a semi-digital darkroom ("light" room??) as follows.  Use 
film for the camera, but have it processed at a place that does Kodak photo 
CDs.  I've found places for around 65 cents a scan in 35mm (plus medium), 
and $15 per scan in medium format (talk about another *big* difference in 
cost!  But they are all like that.  The medium format photo CD's have an 
extra scan at a super high resolution.)  Take the images from the Photo Cd 
and manipulate them in Photoshop and print on an Epson.  I would like to 
keep the ability to do 11 x 14 size, so the larger 1270 would be my choice.

I would really enjoy getting creative control again, since I gave up my B&W 
darkroom 20 years ago.  Also, I shoot transparencies mostly and the price 
of Ilfochrome prints is outrageous.  This setup would soon make economic 
sense too.  Heretofore, the ink jet output I've gotten on my HP has been 
crappy quality.  I'm looking forward to getting something approaching 
chemical based prints.

Best REgards,
John


At 12:12 AM 06/18/2000 -0300, you wrote:
>There is the Epson 2000P pigment based printer coming out soon.  It is like
>the 1270, but boasts 100 year print longevity (we will see about that), but
>is also considerably more expensive (2 or 3 times) than the 1270.
>
>Dan C.
>
>At 11:23 PM 17-06-00 -0400, John Coan wrote:
> >Does Epson have something new on the horizon?  I seem to have heard
> >something about dye based inks being micro encapsulated for better fade
> >resistance?  Or, is this already out in the 1270 model?
> >
> >
> >At 09:28 PM 06/17/2000 -0300, you wrote:
> >>Watch out though....there are reports (I've seen it myself) of premature
> >>colour shifting towards orange for prints made on Epson premium Glossy
> >>paper.  Wilhelm (http://wilhelm-research.com/index.htm) claims it is due to
> >>exposure to ozone, and can best be prevented by storing behind glass.  Also
> >>he suggests keeping the print covered with a sheet of paper for 24 hours
> >>after printing.
> >>
> >>Dan C.
> >>
> >>At 06:04 PM 6/17/00 -0400, Julian Koplen wrote:
> >> >Dan, Gerry, and Mark,
> >> >
> >> >Thanks for supplying the answers I need.  I will forge ahead with my 
> plans
> >> >for the 1270, a birthday purchase sanctioned by my ever-indulgent wife.
>  The
> >> >LUG is wonderful.
> >> >
> >> >Regards...........Julian
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: Dan Cardish <dcardish@microtec.net>
> >> >To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> >> >Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2000 9:54 AM
> >> >Subject: Re: [Leica] OT: Quality limits with Epson 1270
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I have the previous version of the HP scanner, and I have been able to
>make
> >> >great prints  (one of them is 10" x 15") and there is no sign of digital
> >> >artifacting present.
> >> >
> >> >I have also printed a test print at the full 13" x 19" enlargment factor
> >> >(but cropped down to print on standard 8 1/2 x 11 paper), and it too 
> looks
> >> >fine.  I could have improved it slightly by using photoshop to resample
>the
> >> >print up to something greater than 200 dpi, but the improvement would 
> have
> >> >been minor, IMHO.
> >> >
> >> >Dan C.
> >> >
> >> >At 10:13 AM 17-06-00 -0400, Julian Koplen wrote:
> >> >>There has been considerable discussion here about the merits of the 
> Epson
> >> >>870/1270 family of printers.  I  have been given "clearance" to purchase
> >> >one
> >> >>of these as a gift and need to place my order within a day or so, but I
> >> >>don't know if I can take advantage of the 1270's large print capability.
> >> >>
> >> >> My scanner, a HP S20, will deliver 2400 dpi with 35mm film (from 
> Leica M
> >> >>and R).  My question is
> >> >>whether this scanning resolution is sufficient to produce a quality 11
>x 14
> >> >>image.  My
> >> >>calculation is that the final print will have about 218 dpi.  Anybody
>have
> >> >>any experience with "stretching" the digital image that much?
> >> >>
> >> >>Thanks............Julian
> >> >>
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