Re: [Leica] why are you posting this to the Lug???

["AWSteg" <upstream1@mindspring.com>]

snip:  "there are an awful lot of people who produce really mundane wasted
film"

If it takes (some of the very best working pros) an average of 600 rolls of
film to produce a National Geographic article that should provide some
perspective of how difficult it can be to produce good work.  But IMHO when
I start working a subject hard to really suck the essence of it out then I
will go through sometimes 3 rolls of film. . .or more trying to capture the
magic.  If I get one keeper per roll, I feel I'm getting my money's worth.
But I edit tight, don't do postcards for Aunt Delores, shoot E6 and in most
cases don't even have it mounted. . .I cut out the frame (frames) that stand
out, mount it, and can the rest.  On occasion I will have one printed.  If I
know the client is going to want prints I use 2-3 bodies and put C-41 in
one.

Al Stegmeyer

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Lamb" <s_lamb@compuserve.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] why are you posting this to the Lug???


> B. D. Colen wrote
>
> snip:  there are an awful lot of people who produce
> really mundane wasted film
>
> Surely this should be prefixed with "IMHO", since that is your opinion and
> perhaps not that of others, especially those who took the pictures and
maybe
> do not feel their efforts are wastin film.  After all, I suspect even
those
> pros here in the LUG stated by "wasting film" before their technique
evolved
> and matured.
>
> Simon
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of Birkey,
> > > Duane
> > > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 4:55 PM
> > > To: Leica Users (E-mail)
> > > Subject: [Leica] why are you posting this to the Lug???
> > >
> > >
> > > No offense Kyle and Joe, but what do you hope to accomplish by
> > > posting these
> > > messages to the LUG.  Are you telling some people on the LUG they are
> not
> > > worthy of owning a Leica nor a Noctilux?  Or do you hope to
> > > insult everyone
> > > who is not using Leicas to earn a living on this list or those
> > > who you think
> > > are being outshot by 12 year olds with toy cameras.  Or do you want to
> > > discourage people on the LUG from sharing photographs in the
> > > future for fear
> > > they will ridiculed?
> > >
> > > For many people on this list, Photography is a hobby and or a
> > > second passion
> > > and to them Leica is the best way to enjoy it as well as record
> > > personal and
> > > family memories. If the photography of people on the LUG doesn't meet
> your
> > > standards and you feel hindered by it enough to announce it publically
> on
> > > the LUG, perhaps you should find a group of people who share your
> feelings
> > > elsewhere.
> > >
> > > Either way, Let's be nice on the Lug.
> > >
> > > Duane Birkey
> > > HCJB World Radio
> > > Quito Ecuador
> > > Duane's Photographs of Ecuador
> > > http://duane_birkey.tripod.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "Kyle Cassidy" <cassidy@netaxs.com>
> > >
> > > >the www.toycamera.com group and the leica uses group, THEY KICK OUR
> ASSES
> > > every time. i'm absolutely serious,
> > > SNIP
> > > > go ahead and look at their galleries. then ask yourself why you
spent
> > > $1400 on that m6.
> > > > we still need to come up with a credo for the LUG; this ain't it
> though.
> > > >kc
> > > Could it be that aside of a few LUG professionals and others who make
> good
> > > photos for a living or for profit, the rest of us are too concerned
> about
> > > the latest, sharpest, bokehest, and microcontrastiest instead of
> > > art, soul,
> > > and content?
> > >
> > > As an example I will name only one instance: Of all the sample
> > > photos shown
> > > by LUG members which were taken with a Noctilux, I cannot name a
> > > single one
> > > whose pictorial merit would justify the enormous expenses of such a
> lens.
> > >
> > > Joseph Codispoti
> > >
> > >
> >
>