Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/09/28

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Subject: [Leica] Re: Need a Moderated List (was 'AA outcry')
From: Jim Brick <jimbrick@photoaccess.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:13:17 -0700

What it really boils down to is that those folks who want to limit
everything said on the LUG, really want to limit the discussion to what
"they" are interested in. If it doesn't interest them, they want it off of
the list. They want to be moderator and limit everyone's posts to conform
to their own interests. With 800+ LUGgers, happily, this is not about to
happen. With 800+ LUGgers, there are 800+ different interests, 800+
different points of view. Leica photography related but not necessarily as
narrow minded as a handful want to see. People are not afraid to say
something for fear of being "moderated" out of existence.

Many of us get irritated when some no life entity machine guns the LUG with
a barrage of inane posts. But obviously, not everyone feels that way. The
constant chatter is intriguing to some, irritating to others. Funny thing
is, the flack around the fact that the poster is doing this, is actually
worse than the poster's banal posts. What happens is that folks soon tire
of conversing with an email Eliza. When the two way conversations stop, the
hole in the dike is soon mended. And LUG life goes on as usual.

All LUG topics, discussions, excursions, no matter how important or how
insane, are cyclic in nature. They start, rise up, then fall and die out.
Some excursions last longer than some folks patience. But that's their
problem. Filters help bolster endurance. Don't punish yourself. Use them.

You said what you wanted, certainly not Leica photography related. I said
what I wanted, also not Leica photography related. And God (or whomever)
Bless Brian for letting us do this.

Nowadays, it is extremely easy to start and run an email list. Much of the
software is shareware, and very sophisticated. I urge anyone out there to
start a close minded Leica list. Advertise on the LUG. Then report back in
six months and tell us, all 800+ of us, how well it is doing.

Good luck,

Jim


At 09:53 AM 9/29/99 +1000, Andrew Nemeth wrote:
>Joe Berenbaum <joe-b@dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> if anyone was thinking about setting up a LUG list that has 
>> a real moderator and throws idiots off when they become real 
>> problems, now might be a good time to start making it happen.
>
>YES PLEASE.
>
>I myself have had enough of Tiley Hats, Scotch, Beer, camera bags, 
>Porsches, Brainless-AA, Grey cards and the Zone System, and all the 
>other off-topic nonsense this list spends 95% of its time on.
>
>And then there is the overwhelming volume of this s**t.  I couldn't 
>believe it last week when I was getting 4x 76 KB digests *a day* of 
>totally irrelevant crap.
>
>So please - could someone set up a separate, MODERATED Lieca list?
>
>Keep the LUG list for the off-topic nonsense, but restrict the new 
>MODERATED list for people who want to discuss and learn about Leica 
>and Lieca related photo techniques.  And while we are at it, also
>automatically reject postings which lazily quote the entire previous 
>email or thread (like how hard is it to cut & paste revelvant 
>sentences?).  And limit the number of posts from each individual to 
>a max of 5 a day...
>
>Any mailing-list wizards out there?  Here's your chance to win the
>gratitude of @ 100 Lieca users (who actually have a life)!
>
>
>
>Andrew Nemeth
>nemeng.com