Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/09/21

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Subject: Re: [Leica] Consistent underexposure problem
From: "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@atkielski.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:56:17 +0200

From: A.H.SCHMIDT <horsts@actek.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 02:53
Subject: Re: [Leica] Consistent underexposure problem


> What a load of garbage.

It's closer to a statement of fact.

> When you say" Abroad, you sound like you don't really "
> Abroad", but third world countries.  What would you call
> 3rd world countries? Taiwan?  Singapore ? Portugal?
> Scotland? Well............

It actually applies to any country, since the problems arises from differences
in culture.  Some countries care nothing about quality control, others are very
anal-retentive about it.  If you don't recognize these differences when you go
multinational, you'll be in for some unpleasant surprises.

> Where do you think most of the electronic computer
> components American, German, or other "non abroad"
> countries have developed are manufactured? Abroad as you call
> it.

They are just assembled there, and the assembly is not a matter of huge
precision.  The actual chips are fabricated in a handful of facilities held to
extremely high standards.

> These components are to the same high standards as if
> they are made in the originating country.

The components usually come from one of a handful of countries with the means to
produce them.  The relatively unskilled assembly can be done anywhere.

The problem with cameras is that they are mechanical, and assembly is much more
difficult in consequence.

> If you consider Leitz and Canada. Many Leitz lenses originated
> in Canada and where later also manufactured in Germany. Would
> you call the German made products inferior because they where
> made abroad (with respect to Canada)?

I'd consider them suspect, until proven otherwise.

> Look at companies like Adidas, Hugo Boss, IBM, National Semiconductor,
> Hewlett Packard, Nike. The list goes on and on. Do you think this
> companies accept and then sell rubbish ?

Some do, yes.  Also, the products of some of these companies can be slapped
together by unskilled labor.

> It just depends on the Quality assurance.

Yes.  But QA isn't always a high priority, and even when it nominally is, it is
often carried out by local talent that doesn't have the same standards as the
home office.  I've worked in multinational companies for years; I know whereof I
speak.

> Nothing else  Don't forget, People in other countries are not
> all sloppy workers.

I never said they were.  But some countries are sloppier than others in certain
domains.  As I've said, for cameras, I prefer German or Japanese manufacture.

> If  This is your attitude, then, this
> days, you are extremely restricted to what you
> can by.

For most products, it doesn't matter.  For products that are marketed solely on
the basis of quality, it matters a lot.

> You are of course saying, that all the Leica lenses available
> today, which contain glass made in Japan (Abroad) are of inferior
> Quality.

No, I'm not.  Japan has excellent standards for high technology.

  -- Anthony