Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1999/08/15
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]I hope that you will bear with me on this one, it may be a little long but I'm hoping that I can pick some collective brains for some advice. Of course this is a highly biased group, but also a rather informed one and it's the informed, experienced point of view I am looking for. I'm a long time Leica M4-P owner which I use with a 35,50, 90 combo. In my business about 90% of my 35mm work (which in turn is probably only about 25% of my work - the rest is on a Hasselblad) is very undemanding stuff. Mostly it's events shot in color or black and white with flash and the negatives are rarely enlarged beyond 8x10. Still, I love using the Leica. I love its quietness, compactness and unobtrusiveness. I love the results and, though they may not always know why, my clients do too and tell me so. I also love the fact that at almost every event I shoot somebody comes up and admires it which I'm sure helps when it comes to delivering my invoice. :) Nevertheless, I am thinking about getting an SLR as an adjunct to the M sometime in the next few months and so I am doing some research. I'm thinking that a short range zoom could add some flexibility to some of my shoots and an additional camera is good insurance. It would also be useful for those occasions when I need a loaner to give to an assistant or subcontractor. I would be uncomfortable handing my M to somebody not very familiar with rangefinders. Quite apart from the cost, they are too tricky for first time use especially when my good name is at stake. I would like as much as possible to match the optical quality of the M, despite the zoom lens, and also as much as possible of the M's ruggedness and feel. I don't want to compromise on the lens so the only ones I will consider are Leica or Zeiss. That means the camera will be either a Leica or a Contax and to save money (there is a budget!) it will be used, so no R-8. Decision #1 - the lens. Has anybody used the Zeiss 35-70 f3.4 Vario Sonnar? I have always been wary of zooms but honest opinions would be welcome, especially given that I have become used to the quality of Leica primes. .The same applies to the Leica 35-70 f3.5 Vario Elmar (Japanese). Of course if somebody has had the opportunity to use them both to compare, that would be great! I'd also be interested in knowing what people think is the right US price for optically clean examples. Cosmetics are much less important to me. Decision #2 - the body. Obviously, this is related to question number 1. Here are some I have looked at. I also list the ones I have already rejected to save you potential time. Contax RTS II. I have always liked this camera even though it is a hefty beast. Good bodies are quite inexpensive, which is nice. My biggest reservation is the fact that it is battery dependent and has an irritating christmas tree display. Any long term users out there? It always felt tough to me, how is the reliability from experience? Leica R-4 Good price and nice handling. I have heard rumblings on the LUG about reliability (comments?) and I found the viewfinder to be dim. As with the Contax, I don't like the fact that it is electronic. But since it's fairly cheap I might live with that and the blinking lights in the viewfinder. Leica R-3 Even better price. I have always had a soft spot for it, even though it is a glorified Minolta XD-(7?). Comments welcome. Leica R-4s, R-E, R-5, R-7. Too many meter modes. Not worth the extra money to me. To me Leica said it best with their M-6 ad "Less is More." Leica R-6 & R6.2 I like the specifications, but not the subjective feel. The price is also higher than I'd like, being newer than most of the other bodies mentioned here. Leicaflex SL-2. I LOVED this one! I liked the build quality, the bright viewfinder and the fact that I could see all of it with my glasses on, and wind on with my left eye pressed to the eyepiece. It's big but it felt inspring. My reservations are about maintenance. Does anybody have any comments about this? What are common problems? Are parts available? If they are, are the prices getting inflated? A second, more minor, reservation is the split image focussing screen. Am I likely to get darkening with an f3.5 lens? Finally, what do people consider the correct price range for this body? Leicafles SL and Leicaflex. Great prices, but the handling didn't "work" for me. Pity. Finally, I have read about, but not actuially handled the Contax S2. It sounds rather nice, albeit pricey. I'd be interested in hearing from any owners out there. Thanks for wading throught the above and thanks in advance for your help with this subjective choice. Simon Stevens Camera Craftsman (703) 548-7548 http://www.camera-craftsman.com