Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1998/11/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Alan wrote >it does seem weird to me that people would start up today, on a competitive >market, in serious testing (renting or purchasing of benchmarking hardware, >human resources needed to intervene at the various stages of the workflow, >logistics to be managed, etc) if they should not do it in a way that might help >them gain readers and marketshare... Well the most elaborate testing equipment lab is the owe used by PopPhoto. Still most Luggers would not even care to consider the results and Eric wrote recently that the PopPhoto results are questionable. Testing in my opinion has absolutely nothing to do with gaining readers and/or marketshare. Testing should be done to reveal the strong and weak points of a product. Reporting on these characteristics has to done in such a way that prospective users can form an inteligent opinion about this product and know how it will perform when used in their personal work and environment. That is why I refuse to use simple numbers or starratings and/or easy to remember stickers like 'super' or 'awesome' or 'bad'. One of the reasons of the continious debate about relative performance is just this: if a mgazine gives two lenses both 4 stars or both an A-, what in heavens sake do we know then. That is will be good performers relative to what is available on the market. But does it tell you which of both lenses is good for you. That is also why I always refer to companion lenses or predecessors to give some reference. A case in hand is the repeated question whch lens is better: Summilux-R 1,4/80 or Summilux-M 1,4/75 or Elmarit 2.8/90. They all get 4 or 5 stars. Still no one knows how to evaluate this. My reports clearly state in normal photographic parlance what to expect from a lens and how it compares in detail with companion lenses. I could easliy say: get the MTF graph and look for yourself. That will not work. NBWatson referred to MTF testing as a kind of dynanometer that impresses car buyers in a non relevant way. Well as far as I know a dynanometer tests the kilowatt power of an engine, which in todays traffic is indeed not very relevant. If you were tuning an engine for maximum performance it is indispensable. An MTF graph for a designer is not the only tool. They use many other tools to evaluate a lens (spot diagrams for instance). The MTF graph is just a convenient shorthand description of a lens performance IF measured and interpreted competently. To denigrate MTF graphs as non-relevant for photographers is a statement I cannot support. It is the most important information you can get about a lens. AND it correlates very well with photographically relevant quality criteria. It is well known that you can prove everything with statistics and that statistics can lie. So it is with an MTF: it can prove hatever you wish and it also can lie about the real performance. I try to be as honest as I can and not to lie and yes I study MTF graphs in order to give them a meaningfull interpretation for readers of my reports. Without the bravery of Zeiss (yes Marc, you are right about Zeiss, they invented the SLR, they improved on the Leica III and they invented lens analysis as is stands now)we were much more ignorant about the real image quality of lenses. But is the credit of Leica to advance the state of the art two steps ahead, thanks to rigorous MTF checking. And I assume Mr Watson can appreciate that too. Erwin