Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 1997/12/21

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Subject: Re[2]: [Leica] More blind shooting discussion
From: Peterson_Art@hq.navsea.navy.mil
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 12:20:38 -0500

     
     Isn't this topic getting pretty old?  I've not wanted to get into it, 
     but maybe a few words can turn this thing toward some not too distant 
     conclusion.  I don't think I have EVER taken a photo WITHOUT looking 
     through the viewfinder, but because I'm a non-professional picture 
     taker, I have the luxury of simply not taking a picture if I feel that 
     it would endanger me or that it would be too exploitative.  But I have 
     NO problem with anyone NOT looking through the viewfinder---why should 
     I have?  Moreover, now that the idea has been brought up, I may try it 
     myself.  If someone can obtain good pictures by that means, then he or 
     she should do it.  As I argued some weeks ago during the discussion of 
     Henri Cartier-Bresson's technique, it's not what method is used that's 
     important, but rather the RESULTS obtained by whatever method is used. 
     (And by the way, that would include cameras, which perhaps makes me an 
     inappropriate participant in this group: if someone produces beautiful 
     pictures why should we care if they were made with some pinhole camera 
     or with the latest Leica?)
     
     What's more, I think "courage" tends to be over-esteemed, to the point 
     where we suggest that anyone lacking whatever is deemed the requisite 
     amount of the stuff is therefore without value to our society---which 
     is ludicrous.  The fact is that people who may not be very courageous 
     can and do make many positive contributions to our world in many ways. 
     I'd suggest that we would do better to appreciate people for what they 
     can do than to denigrate them for what they cannot.
     
     Let's just let everyone take pictures however he or she sees fit, and 
     appreciate any good results.
     
     Art Peterson
     

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Subject: Re: [Leica] More blind shooting discussion
Author:  leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us at internet
Date:    12/20/97 2:50 AM


I learnt at school, that "to have the balls" means "to show the 
courage", no matter whether the persons is male or female. But, 
I admit, taht my English is rather poor. 
     
It even came to my mind - for a short moment - that the LUG ladies 
weren't half as excited about the mentioned male's attributes, than 
the those male photographers, who felt with their back on the wall.
     
No matter what the correct Englsih phrase may be for stating that a 
photographer takes responsibility for his acts, I agree with Ted's 
statement and position. 
     
In my mind, a photographer, who does *not* take the camera to his 
eyes (except in danger for life and limbs) (1) chickens out, is 
coward, or hasn't the guts to stand to his deed, and (2) evidently 
feels himself also, that he's doing something wrong or exploiting 
others on their costs/ back. 
     
Anyway. I do not think, Robert Capa was looking into another direction, 
when he took his picture.  
     
Alf
     
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At 14:07 19.12.1997 -0500, Ted wrote:
>Obviously it doesn't always work, I'd be a fool to say it did, but on the 
>whole the quick action of the Leica M cameras can beget you any number of 
>wonderful and well composted images without walking around clicking like a 
>Sunday stroller in the park shooting one way while looking another.