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Fresh from the Nikon digest...
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:34:44 -0400
From: Michael Hintlian <MichaelHintlian@compuserve.com>
Subject: M6/50mm f2.0 vs. FM2/50mm f1.8...not
Alan;
<<So M6 pictures often have more life in them not because of hardware
qualities but because of behaviour entailed by some of the hardware
characteristics. >>
Ok, so now there is a difference....this is why I challenged your
statement...there is more to it than MTF charts. By the way, check
the o=
ut
of focus areas vis a vis the Nikkor 50 vs the Summicron 50 for a real
loo=
k
at one of the big differences. =
<<But M6 is really more at ease with a 35mm or 28mm. The rangefinder
allo=
ws
easier focusing with w/a lenses in low light situation: in these
circumstances the rangefinder does have advantages. Not so from 50mm
up.>=
>
Great, we agree on something <bfg>. But, again, Alan, respectfully,
try =
to
focus the FM2 in low light with any focal length (not just the wides)
and=
the Leica will blow it away. The M6 and 50mm, 90mm, and 135mm are as
fas=
t
and as accurate focusing as you will find with the added benefit of
being=
able to see what is coming into the frame before it gets there. The
135
with the magnifying goggles on an M6 is really remarkable...quick to
focu=
s
and enhanced viewing...and it is a very, very nice lens to boot.
=
Don't get me wrong. I've owned the FM2n and Nikkor lenses and liked
them=
a
lot...solid equipment up to the professional task with nice glass
(very
good long glass in particular). But it and the glass that goes with
it a=
re
not in the same league the Leica. There is a big difference
especially
when you start comparing 16X20's from Tri-X negatives...see for
yourself.<g>
Warm regards,
Michael Hintlian
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Subject: Re-2: Leicas and SLRs from Leitz
Author: Alfred Breull <puma@hannover.sgh-net.de> at Internet
Date: 10/14/97 7:05 PM
Sorry, Marvin, I forgot:
To me, a 20 y old Nikon FM is a better SLR than a R Leica or Leicaflex
(except for the bright screen and the 1/2000, but still better in total):
smaller, loading system is better, highly reliable, more comfortable
lightmeter sytem (in her time, and - for me - till today), and a very
reliable mechanical shutter. And, if I could give names to SLRs, I would
call or name the Nikon FM as a fine example of a R Leica, not those Leitz
GmbH products. On the other side, this statement is not true for several R
lenses.
Alf
- ------------------------------------------------------------- At 04:04
14.10.1997 -0400, you wrote:
> Sehr gut Alf -
> You are saying what I said last June, that you don't consider the "R" >
to be a true classic Leica but merely an excellent German SLR, and
> I nearly got my throat cut by Ben Holmes & other "R" users. Even on
> the LUG, everyone has a right to his opinion & I dont consider a front >
engine Porsche to be a true classic Porsche either but it only a matter >
of semantics. Many Leica RF & Porsche rear engine devotees feel the
> same way and that is what Horse Racing Wagering is all about. There
> is a lot of space between here and there so as my niece used to say - >
"Shoot for the moon and even though you miss - you'll land on a star". >
> ****************************Marvin Moss
>In a message dated 97-10-14 03:38:04 EDT, you write: ><<
> Marvin,
> that's exactly what I'm talking about. You used a SLR, not a Leica. The
> winders are different. And, a Leica has a viewfinder, no screen. Screen
> problems might occur, if you use a SLR from Leitz GmbH or try to switch a
> Leica into a SLR e.g. by the Visoflex.
> Alf
> ----------------------------------
> At 01:26 14.10.1997 -0400, you wrote:
> >In a message dated 97-10-14 01:06:00 EDT, you write:
> ><<
> > Gosh !
> > If you would use a Leica and not a SLR from some Leitz GmbH,
> > you wouldn't have problems.
> >================================================
> > Alf - I don't understand what you are telling me. My problem was
> > my heavy finger pressure on my wifes R7 nicht my M6, and it has
> > already been solved thanks to Ted & Jim.
> >================================================
> > It's the same with screens: you don't have screen problems if
> > you use a Leica.
> >================================================
> > Alf - Leica makes many screens and there is one to please everyone.
> >================================================
> > Marvin Moss
> >
> > :)
> > Alf
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > At 23:06 12.10.1997 -0700, Jim wrote:
> > >At 12:44 AM 10/13/97 -0400, Marvin wrote:
> > >> I don't use a winder myself on my Leicas since I use RF versions only
> > >> but my wife does on her R7s. On the few times that I have used hers,
> >
> > >You are using the wrong release button. Don't use the button on the
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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