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Subject: [Leica] Drobos
From: reid at mejac.carlsbad.ca.us (Brian Reid)
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 15:58:27 -0700
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I use my NAS devices to store files reliably. That's all. I don't do 
anything fancy.  Sometimes I look at sections of the manual describing 
complex features, and think "I'm glad I don't have to read and 
understand that". When a disk failed, I took it out and put in a new 
one, and after about 18 hours it had fixed itself and assimilated the 
new disk into the borg of the NAS. I handle NAS issues by not having 
any.

Because it's on a network (the "N" part of NAS) I can store to it from 
any of my computers, and access files on it from any of my computers. 
Inside the house.

I know how to do fancy router stuff that would give me access to the NAS 
from outside the house, but I don't, because it would give Vladimir 
Putin's minions access too, and the best security is to have it be 
impossible.




On 2022-06-30 11:28, Frank Filippone via LUG wrote:
> I disagree with Brian..... He is better equipped personally to handle
> NAS issues than a "normal" Human, without a brother that knows this
> stuff.
> 
> No NAS is easy to use..... other than if you wish most basic 
> functionality...
> 
> As soon as you want to automatically backup, synch (data between two
> drives, or your phnme to your computer) , or other more advanced
> technique, you will need an IT Executive to help you.
> 
> I am in the midst of trying to turn on or off? my NAS remotely.? (
> called Wake on Lan... WOL) The NAS works fine from inside the LAN, but
> sending the command to the NAS from a different location ( Think NJ to
> Calif), you need to have a special modem, router, WOL program, all of
> which really complicates the "ease" of working with a NAS.? You also
> need to have a ISP company that can help you..... I am completely tied
> to Spectrum ( Charter subsidiary) which has no idea of what I need to
> do nor has given me any answers that work.? Even the Tech Support has
> told me to get this or that WIFI Router, which also do not work.....
> Because they actually changed the BIOS so they WILL NOT work with WOL
> commands from outside the LAN.? The ISP only is geared to the average
> homeowner, not someone that want to do something like add a NAS....?
> Basically, in NAS World, you are on your own.
> 
> If you think this is because I have no background in Electronics, I
> have a BSEE Degree, which should be enough ( barely) to at least
> follow directions.
> 
> The problem is that the NAS instructions are geared more to the
> average IT guy, not some homeowner......? Things come up and do not
> work.? Why?? you NEED to understand the WHY...... to find a "fix".?
> Remember, I told you that you are on your own!!!
> 
> The bottom line is that there NEEDS to be a real REASON to use a
> NAS.... and the willingness to put up with the pain it causes.? ( or
> have an IT Pro in your family. A brother is a good choice.)
> 
> The BEST, IMO, reason is the ability to synch 2 different HDD in two
> different locations, .... Otherwise stick with USB HDD.
> 
> USB Connected HDD are significantly easier to use, do not use special
> recording formats, and are really cheap.
> 
> If you are insistent upon using a NAS or NEED it.....
> 
> I use, or rather trying to use, a Synology NAS.? The tech support is
> usually pretty good, and there is lots of stuff written down to help
> you along.? I have several. DO NOT BUY THE CHEAPEST MODEL!? Get the +
> ( Plus) models.
> 
> They come in a bunch of flavors, including 1,2,4,5 and more HDD 
> capability.
> 
> YOU need to decide if you NEED or WANT drive redundancy....
> 
> AND if all this discussion is something you do not understand, get a
> USB HDD or 2, or 3, and use that...... You will be lost in a
> NAS........
> 
> AND if you are a MAC person, there may be better Apple solutions out
> there..... But I only use PC's and that is all I know......
> 
> Or ask Brian if he will adopt you as his OTHER
> brother/Sister/Son/Daughter/Aunt/Uncle.
> 
> 
> Frank Filippone
> BMWRed735i at Gmail.com
> On 6/30/2022 7:34 AM, Brian Reid wrote:
>> On 2022-06-30 10:30, Jack Milton wrote:
>>> Hello Brian,
>>> ?I know NAS has advantages, but what do you think of the complexity
>>> for the average user?
>> 
>> One of my brothers is a musician, living in Maine (York). I gave him a 
>> NAS for a 60th birthday present, with the idea that he could use it 
>> for safe and reliable storage of his music archives. He was able to 
>> set it up and start using it without asking for help, and it has 
>> served him flawlessly.
>> 
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