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Subject: [Leica] [Leica} Tina's Drobos... Update: All loaded.
From: bmwred735i at gmail.com (Frank Filippone)
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2024 17:43:38 -1000
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There is a lot more to this than it looks like...

I agree 100% with Jayanand.? You are trusting someone with your images.? If 
they fail as a company, so do your images.

But there are a bunch of questions you need to answer before you get to the 
decision of which Cloud solution you should use.....

Why do you want a backup?? Is it a business database that you make $$$ from 
(Tina) ?? Is it so save it for your Kids after you are pushing up 
daisies?? Are you a hoarder?? Are you afraid of losing these files if your 
computer/HDD fails?? If your house goes up in flames?? The records are not 
Images but Business records ( think IRS problems)?? This sets up th evalue 
judgement... how important are the images (records) in the first place?

You have gotten past that and decide you want to preserve them,,,

The rule you should be looking at is to make that copy, update it often, and 
KEEP IT AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

Read that twice!

I am going to pose different methods of where to locate the backups...

In a bank vault.? Good idea.? The most inconvenient.? You need to copy 
often...? Do you really want to go to your bank often to keep those updated 
files safe?

Keep a copy at your Mom's ( Dad's, kid's, etc ) house.? Get two HDD, swap 
them often.? One is being copied, the other is the last copy.? A great 
solution. Cheap. (about $200 for two drives of 5TB each)? But you still need 
to visit to swap old for new backup HDD..

Running two NAS devices, with them connected by the Internet.? This is 
probably the best, but not cheapest solution.? I use this solution but I 
hand 
carry all the files back and forth from California to Hawaii.? If I had 
sufficient bandwidth, I would not hand carry, I would set it up to 
automatically transfer the files.... but so it goes.? I have 10MB per second 
bandwidth on one side and it can not be increased.

Use a Cloud location... Most convenient.? Costs a bit each month which can 
add up.? THE LEAST secure.? You are not protected against their failure to 
protect your files from failure of their servers, or others' intrusion. And 
worse, they have your images in their database, subject to them all of a 
sudden deciding THEY OWN YOUR IMAGES.? ( Paranoia IS required).? Same 
bandwidth issues as the previous two NAS devices, but you need to figure out 
if 
the home BandWidth is the only consideration.? .

OK.. Not techie, but certainly nerdy.....


Frank Filippone
BMWRed735i at Gmail.com

On 6/3/2024 4:23 PM, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG wrote:
> I am more interested in their accounting statements. They do very good work
> from all accounts, but their services are largely irrelevant for 99.9% of
> their customers who want to use their services as a backup (of anything).
> The only item that matters is stability and longevity. Just a question to
> put it into perspective - as companies, do you envisage Amazon or Backblaze
> failing first?
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 5:20?AM Adam Bridge via LUG<lug at leica-users.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Backblaze isn?t a new company - they?ve been around for quite a while and
>> do good work. They aren?t Amazon, of course, but they are wide-spread
>> geographically.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>> On Jun 2, 2024, at 10:19?PM, Nathan Wajsman<photo at frozenlight.eu>
>> wrote:
>>> The price for Backblaze seems reasonable, but I do not like the
>> automatic nature of the backup. And of course as always, one must consider
>> whether the company will still be there in 5 years.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> photo at frozenlight.eu
>>>
>>> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>>
>>> ????? ???????! ?????? ?????!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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