Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2015/11/26

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Subject: [Leica] XP-2 mini labs
From: mak at teleport.com (Mark Kronquist)
Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 16:22:13 -0800
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Green century in PDX is in process of recycling tons of labs if anyone needs 
one

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> On Nov 26, 2015, at 3:48 PM, Chris Crawford <chris at 
> chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> No model of the Fuji Frontier ever had plumbing hookups. The machines I
> used were the Fuji SFA series, and they, long before the Frontier
> machines, also had NO plumbing hookups. Those no-plumbing minicabs became
> available nearly 30 years ago. By the time I worked with them, 20 yrs ago,
> they were already the standard in the industry.
> 
> Pro labs used machines that had real running water wash, but one hour labs
> were using Fuji, Noritsu, Gretag, and Agfa minilabs with no running water.
> 
> -- 
> Chris Crawford
> Fine Art Photography
> Fort Wayne, Indiana
> 260-437-8990
> 
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> 
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> 
> 
> On 11/26/15, 5:59 PM, "LUG on behalf of Bill Pearce"
> <lug-bounces+chris=chriscrawfordphoto.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Much of what you write here is just not true.
>> 
>> First: The no-plumpbing minilabs came out long before digital, and were
>> not an attempt to ?sell more machines before it was too late.? I know, I
>> worked in a one-hour lab back then, and we used such machines. Long before
>> digital cameras, long before digital minicabs like the Fuji Frontier.
>> 
>> But were your Frontiers the ones hooked up with plumbing with a
>> consistent 
>> flow of fresh washwater? Most were. Minilab machines without plumbing
>> connections were very late to the market.
>> 
>> Second: Black and white film developing and darkroom printing have most
>> certainly NOT been banished from public schools in the USA. I?m a public
>> school teacher in the largest public school district in Indiana. All five
>> of our academic high schools have photography classes using black and
>> white film where students develop film by hand and make prints in the
>> darkroom, by hand. The classes are quite popular, too. We also teach
>> digital photo/Photoshop/digital printing as well.
>> 
>> Where I live in Brownbackistan, public schools are generally out of the
>> wet 
>> darkroom business, unless some have been reintroduced recently.
>> 
>> Processing machinery went ?to the bottom of the landfill? because people
>> stopped shooting film and started shooting digital. This had nothing to do
>> with fear of chemicals.
>> 
>> never meant to say it did, just that it was the final na


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