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Subject: [Leica] Monochrom high iso test
From: john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster)
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 03:18:31 +0000
References: <52E73787.3070602@jayburleson.com> <CAF8hL-F-wZhCJJykfCfvsmVfSjKDwwvyQDtcZ0-ovO0LmyPn5A@mail.gmail.com> <CABmfTOX7J8V0YC4p0S4fJY7i7tCUfGkBDOxdrmH02Opf6JrcKQ@mail.gmail.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E9E68429D7@WhizzMAIL01.whizz.org> <CAF8hL-Ejz4tx3NvMvgrP0PxOC6=3E2mty_5qzN7qy0QE21yWuw@mail.gmail.com> <80F9701439F20347874CE5E4E03C22E9E6847AA5@WhizzMAIL01.whizz.org>, <CAH1UNJ2Z0iqO498g3fsdszBNKdeMT2K-_KxEXLKH18KKnqQx5w@mail.gmail.com>

The thing is I am using (in these examples ) 5000ASA for effect rather than 
need ;-) You can start to get a film-like effect....

john
________________________________________


Looks very good, indeed.

Just for comparison, these two are ISO6400 on the Nikon D800E/28mm
f1.8G combo taken earlier this month - the shutter speed in the EXIF
is all screwed up for some reason I do not understand - my guess is
they were taken at 1/30:

http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/ireland/Antarctica_20140106_0064.jpg.html

http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/ireland/Antarctica_20140106_0076.jpg.html

Cheers
Jayanand

On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:25 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> 
wrote:
> A couple of examples:
>
> http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2013/27/content/L2003238_large.html
>
> http://johnmcmaster.com/PESO/LUG/05-TwilightZone/content/L2003805_HDR_large.html
>
> http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2013/41/content/L2004005_large.html
>
> http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2014/02/content/L2004327_large.html
>
> You can start to see the effect in these 1200 pixel images, it looks 
> lovely in the original......
>
> john
> ________________________________________
>
> OK, THAT is hard core :-)
>
> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> // http://facebook.com/richardmanphoto
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:41 AM, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz> 
> wrote:
>
>> Ditto, I often use an ND1.8 so I can use 5000 during the day ;-)
>>
>> john
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>> I love the texture at ISO 5000 so much particularly in low light with
>> lower contrast lenses, that I don't do anything to the noise.
>>
>> Marty
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 28 January 2014, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Just out of curiosity, does anyone who do all sort of tricks to get
>> > "better noise behaviors" etc. have good photos to show?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Jay Burleson
>> > <leica at jayburleson.com<javascript:;>
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > I am more apt to follow Ted's advice and just go out and shoot, but
>> > enough
>> > > interest has been raised here and on other forums for me to
>> > > undertake
>> > this
>> > > absolutely non-scientific test.
>> > > There has been some chatter about deliberately underexposing the M9
>> > > at a lower iso and then pushing the exposure in post to get better
>> > > noise results, and questions have been asked, since the Monochrom
>> > > shares the
>> > same
>> > > base sensor as the M9, if that would work with it.
>> > >
>> > > The answer is yes and no.
>> > > It is doable, but (to my eye), there is no appreciable reason to do 
>> > > it.
>> > > There is a slight (approx. 1/4 stop) gain in the highlight side of
>> > > the histogram, but the overall noise is the same, and when fully
>> > > processed,
>> > no
>> > > real differences.
>> > > It does demonstrate how much detail is available in the Monochrom
>> > shadows;
>> > > a 5 stop push on the underexposed image was just fine.
>> > >
>> > > #2171: iso 10000, -.3 stop exposure compensation, no other Lightroom
>> > > adjustments.
>> > >
>> > > #2172: iso 1250, -.3 stop exposure compensation, + 3 stops exposure
>> > > added in Lightroom.
>> > >
>> > > #2171A: Additional post processing in Lightroom to look correct (in
>> > > my opinion).
>> > >
>> > > #2172A: Additional post processing in Lightroom to look correct (in
>> > > my opinion).
>> > >
>> > > The images are here:
>> > >
>> > > http://jayburleson.com/leica/misc_images/mm_iso_test/
>> > > --
>> > > Jay,
>> > >
>> > > Jay Burleson Gallery
>> > > <http://jayburleson.com/leica/gallery/index.php/>


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