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Subject: [Leica] Times Photographer Is Arrested on Assignment in NY
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (tedgrant at shaw.ca)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 23:12:42 -0700
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Gee I rarely had a problem with police .............. it's called a 280 mm 
lens I could turn into a 400 or 800mm in the blink of an eye with extenders 
if required! Step back quickly, don't argue or use any of that crap about 
"the public have a right to know" etc. when asked and shoot back into the 
crowd closer than if you were in the middle of it with a 50mm lens! It's 
called using your common sense and long glass for more than shooting a 
football game!

Trust me if you have never ever been in the middle of this kind of 
situation? Please consider very seriously what you are going to write and 
whom you might blame. Do not make grandiose comments or blame without one 
iota of experince when confronted with a situation like this! Thank you.

Yes this situation was in the evening!  ERGO: photog probably required flash 
use? So, it then requires a major amount of simple, read simple! "Common 
sense" logic to avoid becoming a pain in the ass to the law enforcement 
officers trying to do their job to avoid an out and out street  brawl 
situation????????  MAYBE?

When asked to stop taking pictures.... meaning stop flashing that thing in 
our faces  ........... He, the photog, had a choice, stop flashing or stay 
and keep being a pain in the ass for the police officers attempting to stop 
what may or may not have turned into a bigger confrontation than what it 
was?????? Or they wanted to cope with?

There are way too many details missing for anyone to make a "cops bad guys? 
"Photog bad guy? Blame!
"Or his rights stopped!" Or whatever you want to drag-up to make the cops 
look bad! Get over it, they are not all bad guys some people try to make 
them out to be! Yep, there are a few bad ones. Just get over it and be glad 
there are more of them, "GOOD GUYS AND GALS" than the odd stupid one!

Why not wait to read what the newspaper and police make as believable 
statements first, without waving your flag and constitution rights all over 
the place blaming folks before anyone actually knows the closest thing to 
the truth that actually occurred?"

It would seem reasonable to have all the details first? Isn't it?

Seems a fair and reasonable manner before making grandiose statements about 
what's written in your constitution ? And whom to blame? Cops? Whose job 
these days, they couldn't pay me a enough to be one of them trying to cope 
with society of today! Or a photog attempting to do his job and not using 
one iota of common sense!

cheers,
Dr. ted



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