[Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re: How about this one?

[john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster)]

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john
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Thank YOU!!!! One mystery solved!

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Richard Taylor <r.s.taylor at 
comcast.net>wrote:

> Mark - I remember seeing the contact sheet with multiple jumps, too, but
> whether it was in connection with the NYLUG meting or elsewhere, I can't
> remember at the moment.
>
> Dick
>
>
>
> On Jun 17, 2012, at 3:51, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:
>
> > I was afraid of that.  I went flipping though the book when I was in
> > Portland last month and I never found the page. The show we saw in NY
> though
> > was not that show you are mentioning. It was the Scrapbook show. Early
> work.
> > It could be I dreamt the contact sheet of puddle jumping but I was not
> aware
> > I was that delusional.  Possible though. The place I would have seen it
> > would have been in the International Center of Photography five years
> ago.
> > Perhaps someone who was with me from the NYLUG can corroborate it.
> > I certainly can not find it in numerous searches on Bing and Google
> contacts
> > sheet mode searches.
> > Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946
> > JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007
> > http://www.icp.org/museum/exhibitions/henri-cartier-bressons-scrapbook
> >
> > - - from my iRabs.
> > Mark Rabiner
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
> >
> >
> >> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 18:37:02 -0700
> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Subject: [Leica] "The Puddle Jumper" / Re:  How about this one?
> >>
> >> Mark, I checked my copy of "Celebrating the Negative," and the negative
> >> shown is just that single frame, cut off, without sprocket holes on on
> edge
> >> even (Henri "ate them," so he said).
> >>
> >> No there is no contact sheet of the sequence. Unfortunately, it's not
> >> included in the Magnum book "Contact Sheet" either.
> >>
> >> I went to the "Modern Century" show of HCB's photos a few years ago in
> >> SFMOMA and there's no such contact sheet :-(
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> In the contact sheet in the book  "Celebrating the Negative"  by
> >>> John Loengard you can see he is caught in the air jumping over the same
> >>> puddle from the same spot at least 27 times.
> >>> Some of us NY LUG guys also saw and discused that contact sheet when
> it was
> >>> displayed in the early HCB show at the ICP in new York a few years ago:
> >>> Henri Cartier-Bresson's Scrapbook: Photographs, 1932?1946
> >>> JANUARY 19?APRIL 29, 2007
> >>>
> >>> Derriere la Gare Saint-Lazare  better known as:
> >>> The Puddle Jumper
> >>>
> >>> This photo findable now on the internet is mainly used as an example
> for
> >>> the
> >>> other myth. That HCB (or other Magnum shooters) never cropped. This
> photo
> >>> is
> >>> cropped by quite a bit. As are a handful of others of his.
> >>> They are saying in many examples I find on the internet  that he is
> >>> shooting
> >>> through a fence which reinforces the whole "decisive moment" myth;
> Waiting
> >>> patiently some magic moment to happen from a hole in a fence clicking
> once
> >>> and going home.
> >>> But the guy jumps from the same place over the same puddle strip after
> >>> strip.
> >>> And there was no reason for HCB to not act like any other magazine
> >>> photographer of the time and perhaps a bit less so, now.. To be heavily
> >>> involved with what he was shooting.
> >>> Of course its always depended on the exact kind of thing you're
> shooting.
> >>> Baby shoes and so on. Hiring models to kiss in front of crowds of
> leering
> >>> men...
> >>>
> >>> - - from my iRabs.
> >>> Mark Rabiner
> >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:52:29 -0700
> >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] How about this one?
> >>>>
> >>>> In the "Impassionated Eye" video, HCB explicitly said the same thing
> you
> >>>> did, so I think the "asking the guy jumping multiple times" is a myth.
> >>>>
> >>>> and I just love this video
> >>>> http://vimeo.com/33376713
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 5:17 PM, B. D. Colen <bd at bdcolenphoto.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> ...
> >>>>> Finally, I won't put money on this - but I don't think HCB had the
> guy
> >>> do
> >>>>> anything. He was shooting through a hole in a fence, and shot a
> series
> >>> of
> >>>>> people as they tried to get across the puddle. The best of the
> images he
> >>>>> got was of the famous jumper. At least I believe that's correct.
> >>>>>