Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/07/08

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Subject: [Leica] (FF) waned
From: john at chiaroscuro.co.nz (John McMaster)
Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:30:06 +1200
References: <005001cc3dec$62a79db0$27f6d910$@chiaroscuro.co.nz> <CA3D4F2F.118CD%mark@rabinergroup.com>

I have always thought of it as 1:1 to ~5:1 then into micro, as you say 1:2
is often said as macro and that is all my APO-Macro can do without an
add-on......

john

-----Original Message-----

I'm game! So what's the difference between a macro shot and a close up?
I'm afraid I use both terms interchangeably my whole life with my
photographer friends.
And basically from all I've read its all about a meter or three feet or
closer.  I think I've got this from reading countless articles by columnists
in photo magazines for 3.5 decades and by looking at the rather complex
markings on my macro lenses which indicate magnification and so on.

By the way I just wiki'd it and the guy says a macro shot  is a shot in
which the shot, first neg, but later print is bigger than the subject
itself.
This I would call BS. NEVER have I heard that one before!

Most macro lenes before a decade ago by the way did not even focus to 1:1
1:2 was about the norm you needed add ons to get 1:1 a thing which most
people I've ever met never bothered with.


Mark William Rabiner


> From: John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:57:56 +1200
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] (FF) waned
> 
> This is much more a close-up rather than macro...
> 
> john
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> Macro grab shots are not uncommon here on the LUG but in my opinion 
> macro is hard.  Way harder than it looks. And its hard to do a 
> successful macro grab shot. The best macro shots I feel take a bit 
> more time and require some technique. And require more shots which you 
> pick from to get one which is good.
> 
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> 
> 
>> From: John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:42:47 +1200
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] (FF) waned
>> 
>> Thanks Mark, it was a lazy shot (handheld and at low asa speed ;-)) 
>> but I quite liked it
>> 
>> john
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> 
>> The muted colors are refreshing but I'd stop down so we have more 
>> information to look at. All we get is a tantalizing sixtieth of an 
>> inch slice of some of the globs!  Our eye keeps searching for detail 
>> and its now quite sure where to look.
>> Also its best if the areas which are in focus in macro work be in the 
>> forefront. In front. In the foreground. As our eye goes their first.
>> To have stuff in the back be soft we expect that. As its in the 
>> background we're less worried about it But having stuff in the front 
>> where we look first look soft is jarring.
>> Its like there are soft blobs "in the way".
>> 
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: John McMaster <john at chiaroscuro.co.nz>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 15:30:49 +1200
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: [Leica] (FF) waned
>>> 
>>> I cannot match the bright colours of the northern hemisphere 
>>> currently, so here is one past its best....
>>> 
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/Chiaroscuro/Flowers/waned.jpg.html
>>> 
>>> C & C welcome (as always)
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> Canon 5D MkI (new to me), APO-Macro 100mm
>>> 
>>> 




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