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Subject: [Leica] Fwd: The many temptations of a chef
From: mingthein at gmail.com (Thein Onn Ming)
Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 11:17:24 +0800
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> Thanks Mark. I need to get a big printer. Shot at f4 if I remember  
> correctly. I do find myself wanting a bit more speed sometimes  
> though - more for the isolation at middle distances (isolation with  
> context?) rather than low light ability.  Have to agree with your  
> assessment of CV; problem is, there are some lenses that Leica just  
> doesn't make like the 12 and 15 heliars (the WATE doesn't count -  
> it's HUGE!) and the 35 Nokton. Get the 15 if you can. The M mount  
> version I have seems better than the LTM version I tested, but it  
> could be due to tolerances in the adaptor (saw some decentering)  
> rather than a problem with the glass itself. I believe the optical  
> design is the same.
>
> Ming
>
> On May 26, 2009, at 1:12 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>
>> I'm very fond of the shot the busyness is the main point of the shot;
>> Less busy; Less shot.
>> And it this higher resolution on the screen I can almost start to  
>> really
>> appreatate the amazingness of the 35mm Summicron ASPH. An  
>> astounding ground
>> breaking optic.
>> Would love to see this shot printed 17x22".
>> A bit high key for me this rendition you might want to see if the  
>> shot reads
>> more satisfyingly with a slightly more richer tonality. Darker.  
>> Nice blacks
>> though.
>> The Summicron name to me and lots of people is the main Leica  
>> brand and what
>> Leica is all about. But we usually have a Summilux 1.4 option.
>> A Summicron being a Summicron; and a Summilux being a Summilux.
>> Personally I find f1.4 to be an SLR thing and f 2 to be very much a
>> rangefinder thing.
>> In the case of the 35 you can't even tell the lenses apart till  
>> you see the
>> labels. Same filter size; same shape almost the same weight. The  
>> 1.4 just
>> cost another grand. USD.
>> This looks like a 5.6 shot to me though.
>> And its not as if f1.4 helps you see through the viewfinder better  
>> and snap
>> the image on the groundless more reassuringly. No groundglass.  
>> Leica m.
>>
>> Cosina Voigtl?nder optics are inspired and enviable alternates for  
>> a Leica
>> camera. But there is a reason why they are 2 or 3 price points  
>> below that of
>> Leica. Glass choices, tolerances. Quality control. They are just  
>> not Leica
>> glass. For someone who cant swing thousands of dollars to buy a  
>> new lens its
>> the only option. But if I did have the money I'd go for the Leica  
>> every
>> time. Go for the best glass every time. Leica coincidently is  
>> probably the
>> best glass ever made bar none and we get to put it on your  
>> cameras. If we
>> have the money.
>>
>> Coincidently I'm very fond of using a lens made by Cosina a chrome  
>> 45mm 2.8
>> P for pancake on my D40x.
>> http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/45.htm
>>
>> And I have my eye on getting both the 12 and 15 for my Leica system;
>> But as of late have been preferring to get LTM (screw mount) Leica  
>> glass so
>> as to be able to use them on both my Leica systems my main one  
>> being my IIIF
>> LTM.
>>
>> The 21 I could see getting for its compactness as I leave my 21  
>> home for
>> many an excursion for that reason.
>>
>>
>> Mark William Rabiner
>
>
>

THEIN Onn Ming
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