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Subject: [Leica] Señoritas on the Semana Santaprocession
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sat Apr 12 18:56:21 2008

> Hi Mark,
> 
> I don't dislike the 28 ASPH, I have only three lenses ASPH, the 28/2,8, the
> Tri-Elmar and the 90AA. They don't have the certain romantic vintage
> rfendition, but his sharpness is nice for me while I'm using film. On the
> other hand, I have the Summilux 11114 and the 35 Summicron 4th generation,
> and if somebody offer me to trade for the ASPH I'll say, no tahnk you. I
> prefer keep mines. As said the mainly reason I've choosed de 28/2,8 ASPH is
> because it small and compact.
> 
> Saludos cordiales
> Luis
> 
> 
>   
> 
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org
> [mailto:lug-bounces+luisripoll=telefonica.net@leica-users.org] En nombre de
> Mark Rabiner
> Enviado el: s?bado, 12 de abril de 2008 20:22
> Para: Leica Users Group
> Asunto: Re: [Leica] Se?oritas on the Semana Santaprocession
> 
>> Hola Luis,
>> 
>> good set of pics...
>> 
>> my prefs goes for the first of the group, maybe because of the "vintage"
>> look of the picture or because of the se?orita's face expression or
>> maybe because of the look Summilux comes up with.
>> I think this is definitely a good one.
>> 
>> Don't like too much of sharpness that Elmarit ASPH, in comparison with
>> the one mentioned above...
>> 
>> And didn't like either that other se?orita making a snoop of you.
>> It is not what we'd be calling a pleasant expression in her face.
>> 
>> Did you ask her to shoot before anything else ? :-) It sounds to me
>> you didn't and that's what she meant, I think.
>> It would make her to charge you some good euros to get a model release
>> out of her, wouldn't it ?!
>> 
>> Get rid of all ASPH glasses and keep all pre ASPH ones They rather
>> look more like any of those japanese glasses, don't they ?  ;-) I mean
>> I can't see the famous Leica glow in those pictures as can't see
>> either smooth transitions. hehee...
>> 
>> Keep shooting...
>> 
>> Saludos
>> 
>> Pablo
>> 
> I know we're slightly kidding here but on the record I'd like to state 
> again
> and weigh in on the side of  I think the modern ASPH Leica glass lacks in 
> my
> opinion nothing.
> I find no reason not to use them. None.
> I find no brittleness. No lack of Bokeh. Nothing. Nothing negative.
> I have 16x20 fiber darkroom prints from many Leica modern ASPH glass.
> They don't look funny in any way that I can tell or anyone's had the guts 
> to
> tell me.
> One print I took in Boston a night shot of mannequins in a shop window with
> Delta 400 in Xtol 1:3 has been twice mistaken for large format. 4x5. And it
> was hand held. Taken with a 35mm Asph Summicron.
> I'm not of the impression that the design parameters of this glass match up
> to my also very beloved Nikon glass. Or how much they relate at all.
> But classic nikon glass and the newer stuff with the curved many blades 
> have
> different looks. The modern Nikon stuff the Bokeh is a lot better a design
> parameter assigned to German glass.
> 
> 
> 
> 
Romantic vintage rendition the new glass don't got.
I can go with that.

Me when I want that stuff I go with glass and the adaptor designed for LTM.
Leica thread mount.
Screw Mount.
BARNACK to you son.

That stuff has more Leica traditional fingerprint than you can swing a stick
at.

Two 28 asphs aren't they?
The 2.8 and the 2?

Personally I think they once you buy a lens you don't need to trade up to
the next newest thing every time they come out. You've got prints on the
walls from your current lens they look more than ok. One doest always need
something better than they got. But one don't need to put down the newer
stuff with with this Bokeh BS.
If I had had a complete set of Leica glass in the 80s and then they started
coming out with the ASPH's in the 90s only one or two focal lengths would I
have also gone ASPH with.
I actually as a matter of fact did do that with my 90 current Elmarit.
An extraordinary lens but the APO Asph Summicron is even more extraordinary
and I was able to use two 90s. So I got that. One on a black and white body
one on a color body. At f11 on the studio backdrop it was not obvious which
was which.
What I didn't do was "trade" the one for the other.






Mark William Rabiner
markrabiner.com




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