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Subject: [Leica] Which HP or Canon
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sun Nov 11 19:12:05 2007

> Ernie
> 
> I had one major question regarding a switch to HP or Canon.....I only
> want black ink on my b&w prints. (black pigment ink). It seems as if the
> HP B9180 will let one print b&w without using color inks. Even the Epson
> 2400 uses color inks in doing monochrome and to me that's a minus.
> 
> Will let you know how my new HP does as soon as I have 500 discretionary
> dollars to spend. :-)     One thing, for all the died in the wool Epson
> users. If I could offer a piece of advice? /*BUY */a chip resetter from
> MIS and when your machine tells you the ink carts are empty, reset them.
> Can't tell you how many times I've printed for a few more days on empty
> cartridges. Epson managed to lose a lawsuit over that little bit of
> consumer screwing.
> 
> Walt

Yes but little work of consequence is being done on non Epson printers and
ESPECAILLY in the black and white area. Results from Non Epson printers
could even be considered "suspect".
I am printing as we speak (I'll move the microphone over there) here the
crunching sound?
And getting better images than I've ever gotten before with any printing
process I've ever done. Using 3800 with Epson UltraChrome color inks there's
three grays in there. The color inks in there serve you well.
Black and white in the darkroom was never black and white.
It was all about print color. You fine tuned it any number of ways.
The paper and developer and dilution you chose and the time in the soup and
selenium and gold toners.
A "green Print" never stood a chance on a gallery wall.

My set design teacher taught me black pigment was cheap and unreliable.
The best way to get black was to mix the primary colors. Use real paint.
Black in the world of pigment is "all colors".

In the world of light by the way its "no colors".

I've printed with CIS Quadtone MIS inks the UltraChrome Epson pigments I'm
doing now looks about 7 times better.

HP and Canon printers are for people totally out of the loop in the world of
serious quality inkjet printing. People who haven't bother to check things
out in the real world of printing and who apparently don't know anybody.
Its not like there's no internet. This stuff can be easily checked out.





Mark William Rabiner
markrabiner.com



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