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Subject: [Leica] Hoppy does Barcelona - street crime
From: glehrer at san.rr.com (Jerry Lehrer)
Date: Tue Oct 23 18:39:32 2007
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Jim, 

Safe from fires so far, but not safe from landslides.

Thanks for asking,
Jerry


Jim Nichols wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> Good to hear from you.  How are you dealing with the fires in your 
> area?  Is La Jolla threatened?
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Lehrer" <glehrer@san.rr.com>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 3:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Hoppy does Barcelona - street crime
>
>
>>
>>
>> LUGers,
>>
>> The only places that I have felt safe from street crime have been in 
>> Japan, whether it be in a remote mountain village or  big city Kobe,
>> Northern UK, and La Jolla , of course
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>> Douglas Sharp wrote:
>>> Low-level crime it may be for the police, but when it's happened to 
>>> you it's anything but low-level - Frauke (my missus) still refuses 
>>> to shop at H&M in Hannover since her purse was stolen there during 
>>> the summer sales a few years ago.
>>>
>>> Organised begging and pickpockets, skimming at ATMs (it's so 
>>> widespread in Germany that we even inspect the keypads and 
>>> card-slots of ATMs whenever were getting some cash, even in banks) - 
>>> you can't get away from it anywhere in any busy city, Hannover is 
>>> full of them too.
>>> Most pickpockets seem to work in groups in the main department 
>>> stores where you are less likely to notice being pushed about.
>>> The other popular trick is to stain your jacket with a spilled drink 
>>> or food to distract your attention, or you're accosted by small 
>>> children who show you a piece of paper (don't know what's on it, I 
>>> never fell for that trick) so you don't notice the adults filching 
>>> your pockets.
>>>
>>> Bag-snatching here is mainly drug addiction related theft, not 
>>> organised crime.
>>>
>>> So, don't trust anybody who gets too close - keep a mean and 
>>> murderous look in your eyes (pretend everyone else is a Nikon or 
>>> Canon user ;-) ) and always keep your ID, passport, bank and credit 
>>> cards in a secure inside pocket far away from your wallet.
>>> Cheers
>>> Douglas
>>>
>>> Daniel Ridings wrote:
>>>> On 10/22/07, Steve Unsworth <lug@steveunsworth.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> One of the possible venues is Barcelona, but some people seem 
>>>>> concerned
>>>>> about low level street crime - pick pockets etc. Did you feel 
>>>>> unsafe or
>>>>> venerable why you were in Barcelona?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve,
>>>>
>>>> My 18-year-old daughter was in Barcelona a few months ago for a whole
>>>> week. It was her first trip out on her own. She had heard this too
>>>> (pick pockets, etc).
>>>>
>>>> So she didn't take her Pentax DSLR, but a compact Canon instead.
>>>>
>>>> She was really upset with herself. The reports of pick pockets wasn't
>>>> anything she had to concern herself with once she was there.
>>>>
>>>> My wife ran in to some Rumanians standing around ATM:s and tried to
>>>> make off with her 50 Euro bill, but she grabbed her, confronted the
>>>> old lady and got her money back.
>>>>
>>>> I doubt that the pick pocket situation is worse than any other major
>>>> city. The days when you could walk around Europe (at least walk around
>>>> in the big cities) without worrying about this kind of thing is over.
>>>> Barcelona is no worse than anywhere else.
>>>>
>>>> _
>>


In reply to: Message from dlridings at gmail.com (Daniel Ridings) ([Leica] Hoppy does Barcelona - first report)
Message from douglas.sharp at gmx.de (Douglas Sharp) ([Leica] Hoppy does Barcelona - street crime)
Message from glehrer at san.rr.com (Jerry Lehrer) ([Leica] Hoppy does Barcelona - street crime)
Message from jhnichols at bellsouth.net (Jim Nichols) ([Leica] Hoppy does Barcelona - street crime)