Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2007/04/06
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]>It maybe just physics, but in many cases I bet most people wouldn't see any >difference unless it was pointed out to them. Or it was such an obvious >shift of colour it would easily be seen. > >I'm not arguing that there isn't an IR problem, I just think a number of >people are over reacting to the problem. Yep it's there and in some cases >obvious. However is it obvious in every frame shot and is it as big a >"problem" as some folks make out? I think not. The effect of IR contamination in unfiltered M8 shots is obvious in every frame I have shot which has IR rich illumination and synthetic fibers, pale skin, and/or green foliage, just as physics would predict. 100% of the people that I have shown comparisons to notice the effect immediately. I would definitely recommend that you use an IR blocking filter on the M8 if you intend to shoot social events in color. The bride might remember the exact shade she chose for those bride's maids gowns in synthetic fabrics. Your preference for warm flesh tones may not amuse her. You will have a lot of Photoshop retouching to do. The IR blocking filters are cheaper than the labor involved. The real point of the example I posted is that the synthetic green sweater has turned slightly magenta grey--and no known custom color profile has any chance of mapping it back to green. Not to mention that the shadowed area of the sweater is hardly affected at all. Mixed light brings a form of differential IR contamination which will drive you completely nuts to try to remove in post processing. My overall recommendation--if you shoot color with the M8, you should at least buy one IR blocking filter and try the comparison yourself, to see if it makes a difference in the shooting that you do. No amount of internet debate by others will settle the issue for your shooting and your eye. If you want to have some fun you should buy a filter which passes IR and blocks visible frequencies and go out and have some fun with the M8. You will find that it is so sensitive to IR that you can easily shoot those dreamy IR shots hand held--and moreover the exposure meter is sufficiently sensitive to IR that you can use it to meter, possibly with a +1 exposure compensation. One very positive side effect of the M8 IR controversy for me has been that I discovered that my Nikon D2h is rather sensitive to IR as well, and using an IR blocking filter with that camera improves its color rendition quite a bit. I now understand why I got such weird and inconsistent colors from synthetic sports uniforms. Earlier reports on Nikon forums of unatural skin tones and magenta color shifts in synthetics were dismissed by the Nikon partisans as due to uncalibrated monitors, gross incompetence, and/or insufficient faith. Mark Davison