Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2006/05/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The topic of the full frame digital Leica keeps coming up. Here is a post I submitted to the LUG three years ago on various implementations of the full frame camera. Has Leica made any progress? "I'm not an optoelectrical engineer but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. Actually I didn't stay at the Holiday Inn but I had a couple of drinks at a bar nearby with some friends who are real optical engineers from IBM's Yorktown Heights Research Lab. After a couple of beers I posed the digital Leica M question. Specifically, could conventional lenses with a short back focus work with a full sized CCD sensor. The answer was the same as suggested by the nay sayers on the LUG - probably not. But - and there is always a "but" in discussions with engineers - if enough time and money were made available, a digital Leica M could be made to work. Here are a couple of the brainstorming suggestions that I remember: Correction plate - a strong planoconcave correction plate in contact with the full sized sensor might be the least expensive but it would require considerable design work and would not work optimally with all lenses. The grazing angle of a 50 mm lens (back focus about 30 mm) is about 33 degrees at the corners of the image frame. The Kodak KAI-110000 sensor requires an angle no greater than 15 degrees. Thus the plate would have to deflect light to the vertical by 18 to 20 degrees at the corners decreasing to zero degrees at the center. For lenses shorter than 50 mm, the corner deflection angle would have to be greater, longer lenses would require less deflection. A fixed correction plate would work best for only one focal length. One suggestion was to supply alternate plates for specific lens ranges, another was to use a single plate and correct for light fall off by software, the frame actuator triggering the right software mode. An alternative suggestion to the planoconcave correction plate was a fresnel lens with groove artifacts removed by software. These guys work for IBM, remember. The suggestion proposed in the Leica press release was to use individual micro lenses over each of the image wells in the sensor, most probably molded into a single pastic overlay. This is a modification of the fresnel lens method. Image compressors - If we are not wedded to the concept of a full sized CCD and are willing to use a smaller sensor, albeit one with a high megapixel count, the easiest approach would be to just use the center 1/2 to 2/3 of the image. This is a no brainer optoelectrically. It is, of course, the approach taken by Epson. When I suggested that many Leica users were wide angle fanatics and would object to a change in apparent focal length of their lenses, several suggestions for image compression that would give the full field of view were offered. The first of these was a fiber optic corrector plate. Imagine a fiber optic bundle the size of a 35 mm frame. Now heat and draw one end of the bundle out until it is the size of a smaller CCD sensor and optically fix it to the sensor. Any image formed on the large end will be reproduced in smaller size at the smaller end where it is picked up by the reduced size sensor. The large end of the bundle could be ground to minimize grazing angle and fall off effects. The result might be more even illumination than with film. The fiber bundle could be bent around from the Leica M inspection port area to the baseplate electronics bay. Artifacts and misplaced fibers would be rectified by software. Marty Forscher used the fiber optic bundle technique in the very first electronic cameras 30 years ago. Relay lens - The aerial image of any Leica lens could be picked up at the film plane and directed by a relay lens to a sensor of any size. The optical twists and turns this requires are best left to your imagination. This approach is thoroughly practical and is used in many scientific instruments. It ain't cheap, however, and the relay optics have to be of the same quality as the prime optics. Afocal lens attachments - A teleconverter type attachment inserted between the prime lens and the camera body could be used to increase the back focus to the point where a full sized sensor would be practical. Of course this would increase the apparent focal length, so an afocal wide angle attachment on the front of the lens could be used to decrease focal length to keep the status quo. Whether this would still be a Leica lens is another story. Our booze abetted conclusion is that a digital Leica COULD be made given enough engineering talent and money. Whether Leica has enough of either is open to question. But there is no doubt that a digital camera that uses Leica lenses is within the realm of possibility." Larry Z