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Subject: [Leica] Russian Jupiter-9 85/2 lens question--for Didier
From: rangefinder at screengang.com (Didier Ludwig)
Date: Tue Apr 4 08:36:22 2006
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Daniel, 
after all it looks like collecting russian lenses is nevertheless more 
interesting than collecting toasters! :-)
I don't doubt a second that Marc is right. Maybe I should have said "MANY 
russian cameras and lenses do have the production year in the first two 
digits of...". 
I do not have KMZ lenses, but at least the (newly aquired black and CLA'd) 
Kiev 4-AM (82) and Fed-2 (68) bodies, several Industars and Helios lenses 
from 58 to 89, all have the year in the first two digits. 
But I'm shure with a zero in the first digit, the bokeh is even smoother ;-) 
Didier



>I have only one lens with that convention, starting with zero, a
>rather late Jupiter-8. So I know it does exist. If you recall, Didier
>qualified his remark with "older" or "earlier" lenses.
>All of my KMZ lenses, with the one exception of the Jupiter-8, follow
>the convention of using the year as the first two numbers (I have more
>lenses than I really want to admit). It seems it is a convention they
>introduced around the 80'ies, like you say.
>Daniel
>
>
>> >As far as I know only the modern lenses begin with 00. Didier's
>> >description is correct.
>> >Daniel
>>
>> The usage of serial numbers beginning with "0"is pretty well standard on
>> lenses actually made at Krasnagorsk, though lenses made at satellite
>> facilities following the year-of-production custom.  For instance, my KMZ
>> 2/50 Jupiter-8 (LTM) is 0239406.  From internal evidence, it is pretty
>> certain that this lenses dates from the early 1980's.
>>
>> Very early ZK/BK production and early Jupiter lenses from KMZ did start
>> their serial numbers with the year of production.  I suspect the 
>> changeover
>> occurred in the later 1950's.
>>
>> Marc






In reply to: Message from rangefinder at screengang.com (Didier Ludwig) ([Leica] Russian Jupiter-9 85/2 lens question)
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Message from rangefinder at screengang.com (Didier Ludwig) ([Leica] Russian Jupiter-9 85/2 lens question--for Didier)
Message from msmall at infionline.net (Marc James Small) ([Leica] Russian Jupiter-9 85/2 lens question--for Didier)
Message from msmall at infionline.net (Marc James Small) ([Leica] Russian Jupiter-9 85/2 lens question--for Didier)
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