Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/10/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]At 1:06 PM -0400 10/12/05, Tina Manley wrote: >At 12:22 PM 10/12/2005, you wrote: >>Black and white says "documentary," "reality" - even though b&w is not real >>;-). Color, in this context, says 'tourist.' > >So far, the vote is 14 for B&W, 7 for color, 4 for Sepia, and 4 >undecided (including me). > >Tina > >Tina Manley, ASMP >http://www.tinamanley.com The responses re: colour vs. B&W are influenced by a lot of factors; probably more and at deeper levels than we are aware of in viewing any particular set of photos. In my personal history, this decision has often been made by circumstances that have nothing to do with intent. In the 1950's, I shot roll film, and my film budget was limited. Colour prints were lousy and expensive. B&W was a lot cheaper, and I had access to a darkroom and knew (slightly) what to do in it. In the 60's I shot mostly 35mm, had a slide projector and sometimes had a bit more money. I shot mostly B&W, but also Kodachrome. Any photography I did for money was B&W. In the 70's I got serious about making money with photography, and generally shot colour as that was what the clients wanted in all formats up to 8x10; mostly transparencies as the quality was better than negatives. For myself, I still shot a lot of B&W; partly because it was comfortable and I knew what I was doing, partly because I read a lot about the history of photography and saw what had been done and was influenced by that. On travels I mostly shot transparencies in 35mm, but sometimes wished I had shot some in B&W. On some trips I did shoot B&W, but mixing the two was never satisfactory. This was definitely tourist stuff, but the denigratory sentiments we (superior photographers :-() often express towards tourists, or family snapshooters should be tempered by the realization that we are all tourists and family members at times. My young family caused me to fall into those categories, and I went into them with eyes open and never regretted it. I tried to take the best photos I could under the circustances, but sometimes the condition of being a tourist or family recorder takes its rightful precedence over being a photographer. That was, and often still is, my position :-). In the 80's colour negative material got better and more versatile and I shot less B&W because a lot of my time was taken up with my photo business, and my client's wishes came first. In this decade I didn't use my Leicas much. In the 90's I did less photography assignments (my architecture business did better!) and I shot less colour negative and more B&W with the Leicas. I began to realize that B&W suited the Leicas and the way I shot with them, and colour suited the SLR's, MF and other stuff somewhat better, as far as I was able to make use of the tools. I still generally feel that way. When I take pictures, I either take B&W pictures or colour pictures, and that is independent of the material I have in the camera. I find it extremely hard to take decent colour pictures and B&W on the same outing. 35mm, MF and LF on the same outing: yes, as long as they are all either colour or B&W. Due to the general history of photography and my personal history, B&W has a strong position and evokes a lot of that history and its connotations. If photography in general and I in particular had started out with today's digital cameras, I'm sure our emotional responses would have been quite different and the aesthetic that has developed around B&W would not exist. As for your pictures, Tina, to me they look like they were taken in colour, and that remains their metier. While I like many of them as B&W, that comes more from my history and associations with documentary photography than the photos themselves. The circumstances of their lifestyles vis a vis ours, and their particular tragic relevance influences this as well. The main thing is still that these are very touching, evidently heartfelt moments recorded wonderfully by you. Thank you very much for showing them to us. -- * Henning J. Wulff /|\ Wulff Photography & Design /###\ mailto:henningw@archiphoto.com |[ ]| http://www.archiphoto.com