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Subject: Fw: [Leica] Digital cameras with large aperture lenses
From: s.jessurun95 at chello.nl (animal)
Date: Fri Mar 18 01:09:55 2005

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "animal" <s.jessurun95@chello.nl>
To: "Henning Wulff" <henningw@archiphoto.com>
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Digital cameras with large aperture lenses


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>> At 12:10 AM +0100 3/18/05, animal wrote:
>>>>It might be 'twice as bright' but the sensor doesn't know that, and 
>>>>won't get the benefit.
>>>>
>>>>Erwin might indeed have some problems on digital fora unless he gets his 
>>>>technical stuff straight, as he seldom wins people over with his wit and 
>>>>humour on the net, although he apparently does have some in person. :-)
>>>>
>>>i find him a bit sarcastic.
>>>just believe that if Leica has him as a tester or consultant that he must 
>>>know his stuff.
>>>And very much doubt that his stuff is not straight(is that english?)
>>>best regards
>>>simon
>>
>> Hi Simon,
>>
>> Erwin definitely knows a lot of stuff, and many of his analyses are 
>> thorough and spot on, but he, like many other people including all 
>> present, doesn't know it all. There are many on this list who know more 
>> than him in various technical fields, let alone other fields, but he 
>> sometimes seems to forget that or not be able to admit it.
>>
>> This insistence on clinging to obviously indefensible points of view 
>> detracts from his many other accomplishments, and rubs many people the 
>> wrong way. His usage of English, admittedly not his best language, also 
>> makes him sound rather stuffy and pompous, which doesn't help.
>>
>> Tom Abrahamsson, who is a good friend of mine here in Vancouver, knows 
>> Erwin fairly well and says he has a good sense of humour and is fun to 
>> chat with over a drink or two. Unfortunately that persona hasn't shown up 
>> on the web.
>>
>> I certainly respect Erwin, and have had a couple of conversations with 
>> him over the years. I'd hoped to meet him last Photokina, but he didn't 
>> show up. He wound up with a bottle of Calvados that I sent his way with 
>> Tom and Tuulikki Abrahamsson, and he said he enjoyed that! I'd certainly 
>> like to sit down with him some time and discuss optics, which has always 
>> been an interest of mine and which I have studied some while getting some 
>> Physics degrees.
>>
>> In any case, as far as digital sensors go, very large aperture lenses of 
>> relatively short focal lengths do have an issue with using all of their 
>> light. It's the same issue as that of vignetting with wideangle lenses, 
>> ie, a lot of the light strikes the sensor at fairly large angle from the 
>> perpendicular, and the sensors can't make full use of that.
>>
>> At the moment it's just part of sensor technology, and affects all 
>> cameras to some degree or other, and can only be mitigated at this time 
>> by designing lenses optimized for digital use by having their rear nodal 
>> points at a very large distance from the sensor. This approaches the 
>> ideal, the so-called telecentric lenses.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Henning
>>
>> -- 
>>    *            Henning J. Wulff
>>   /|\              Architect
>>  /###\   mailto:henningw@archiphoto.com
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> Then i cannot understand the combination of 0.75 aperture lenses on 
> sensors.
> For xray astronomy and remote sensing.
> Nice coincidence i started with Physics as well.
> best,simon
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