Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/03/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Ted: You're a bad, bad boy. You might as well have gone into a monastery in Lhasa Apso and proclaimed the Dahli Lama to be a shallow ashram charlatan. All this reminds me of the so-called "Brahms vs. Wagner" conflict in the late 19th century. Wagner came to represent, in the minds of his followers full-blown Romanticism, the breaking of all musical taboos, "the music of the future." Brahms was said to represent an extension of old craft and order, structure, classicism. The Bramsians thought the Wagnerians were hyperemotional lunatics. The Wagnerians thought the Brahmsians were rigid stuffed shirts. The advocates of each would attend the others' concerts just to boo and cause a scandal. People actually came to blows at concerts. When asked what he thought of Wagner's music, Brahms said something like "Of course, his followers are ridiculous, but the man himself has something to say." Re. Ansel, we have to remember that we all have had a lifetime of seeing his images and those of his wannabes. When he started doing what he was doing, he was a pioneer breaking new ground. He used darkroom technique to allow nature to sing with an almost Wagnerian sweep, in tones of black, white and grey. That ain't hay. Even if today some view him as the Wagnerians viewed Brahms. --Peter At 05:18 PM 3/6/05 -0800, Ted Grant wrote: >The Brits and Ansel groupies >have no sense of humour and take all this "great photographer" stuff way to >seriously.