Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2005/01/21

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Subject: [Leica] Doomed: Leica MP 0.58x
From: feli2 at (Feli)
Date: Fri Jan 21 10:45:05 2005
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You're right. They need to do something and when it comes to glass they 
are king.
If they could manage to make their lenses in Canon mount with automatic
stop down metering, they would sell a bundle. But I doubt that their 
pride would allow them
to do so.

The other problem i see is that Leica gear is simply too expensive. I 
have friends who
were interested in buying an M, but when they saw the price tag they 
dropped the idea.
But I am not sure how to solve that. Move production out of Germany?

Whatever they do, they need a digital M camera asap and it needs to be 
a killer piece of gear. Full frame, minimum of 12MP, weather sealed, 
aimed at professionals.. I don't care of it doesn't use all, or none of 
the current lenses. Canon screwed everyone when they changed mounts and 
after the riots died down everything was ok. People who make a living 
with their gear will drop the money on it if it's the right tool for 
the job at hand. I've talked to several production photographers, and 
almost all of them would buy one, because they need a compact, quiet 
camera, with fast lenses that works well in the dark.

I also think they should team up with someone and license the guts of a 
good 8MP
SLR and produce it with an R-mount. Make two models, one for $1500 and 
a sturdier one for more.

I think Hasselblad is being a lot smarter about the future than Leica 
and if they don't do something soon they are going to be finished. But 
I would also bet that at that point ,they get bought by a big Japanese 


On Jan 21, 2005, at 9:59 AM, B. D. Colen wrote:

> Ah, but wouldn't Leica be ahead of the game working out a deal with
> Canon, where by Canon would get some sort of licensing fee for each 
> lens
> sold in a working Canon mount?
> The point is that Leica needs to do SOMETHING if it's going to survive.
> Producing an extremely expensive digital backs for an R line that is
> already losing money - as wonderful as the cameras may be - isn't going
> to be the thing that saves Leica. And, as Frank pointed out, Leica's
> reputation lays with it's glass. There has to be a way for them to
> capitalize on that.
> Why don't they start advertising the glass for use with adapters on
> Canon EOS bodies? Use photos and endorsements from life-long Leica
> shooters...

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