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Subject: [Leica] Leica Digilux 2 @ 1600 :-) How to make noise?
From: tedgrant at (Ted Grant)
Date: Mon Sep 6 22:41:38 2004
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Adam Bridge said
Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Digilux 2 @ 1600 :-)

> To my eye there's a real difference between grain, as you see in say
> Tri-X pushed to 800, and digital  noise. Maybe it's just that I'm used
> to seeing the grain in film...but I find it much more pleasant than
> the noise in a digital image. For one thing there's a subtle pattern
> to digital noise - it happens on the pixel sites - while film grain
> has a randomness to it that is much more, well, natural, or perhaps
> less ordered, than digital noise.<<<<

Hi Adam,
Maybe I don't know what to look for regarding digital noise as I can't say
I've seen anything creating a visual distraction in any prints I've made.
Even the 1600 Digilux 2 prints in B&W or colour

And if it doesn't look like grain of some kind, I'm beginning to wonder what
the heck I'm supposed to see.  Maybe there's something I can deliberately
try to create noise so bad I wont be able to miss what you lads are
describing. After all I'm still a super rookie with this digital stuff, but
finding it quite an amazing way of capturing images of excellent quality.

Now what can one do to create noise? A simple exposure of some kind or what
is it that everyone else does to actually see noise? Or create it?


In reply to: Message from tedgrant at (Ted Grant) ([Leica] Leica Digilux 2 @ 1600 :-))
Message from abridge at (Adam Bridge) ([Leica] Leica Digilux 2 @ 1600 :-))