Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/02/22

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Subject: RE: [Leica] Panasonic Lumix DMC-LC1
From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 11:02:19 -0500

Having been Mr. Polyrical Correctness from time to time, I have to say
that the remark about different people's having preferences for
different color pallets sure didn't strike me as ethnic slurs, any more
than saying that different peoples speak different languages, based on
different language roots.

BUT...PC issues aside, I will say that anyone who buys the "Leica
version" of a Panasonic camera is someone who really has far too much
money for their own good, and far too little common sense...UNLESS, they
really believe that the warranty is worth $300 - and that Passport
Warranty may actually be a good argument for buying the Leica version,
given all that can go wrong with a digital camera, and how disastrously
wrong it can go. (I have to say that the idea of buying a new Leica film
body - particular an M - to get the warranty strikes me as pretty silly,
given the dependability and longevity of the Leica film camera bodies.
;-) )



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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Daniel
Ridings
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 5:13 AM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Panasonic Lumix DMC-LC1


I don't doubt Sonny for a minute.

We all come from different lines of expertise. I just wanted to point
out something here that might be relevant when it comes to colors and
cultures (languages).

Different cultures see different colors. Linguists have studied this
quite a lot (it's one of the textbook cases). We don't separate colors
the same way. We might have two words and see two colors: red - orange.
Another culture has one single color for our two and simply doesn't see
the difference where we do. There are some pretty extreme cases of this
and it is not unusual at all.

Since Japanese and Indoeuropean languages belong to totally different
language groups, it is not a "given" that they see colors the same way
and theoretically this could be reflected in the film. I seriously doubt
it though since film has a global, not a local, market.

So I don't see statements about Japanese and German colors as ethnical
slurs. I _do_ see the horse's mouth spewing a bunch of HS though. OF
COURSE Leica would say there is a difference. Next thing we know
there'll be rumors about lenses that Leica rejected are being used on
Panasonics. Anything to sneak in that element of doubt and get some
people to pay extra for the Red dot.

I'd probably look at the warranty before I'd look at the PR statements.
The Passport warranty might make it worth the Red dot. Might not.

Daniel


On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Tina Manley wrote:

> At 07:25 PM 2/21/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> >Yeah, Allen, and maybe we're talking a bunch of PR hooie.  I use the 
> >camera. Every day.  I take pictures with it.  Probably several 
> >thousand in the almost a year I've had it.  Probably no one on the 
> >LUG with the possible exception of Tina has more experinence with the

> >two cameras than I do.  I have 2 friends with digilux 1's.  It is the

> >same camera. Believe it.
>
> You're right, Sonny.  I have both and the only way I can tell a 
> difference is that the files from the Leica begin with L and the ones 
> from the Panasonic begin with P!!  I did adjust the software on both 
> to do the least possible processing.  It could be that the difference 
> is in the amount that the software process the files, but when that is

> turned off, they are the same!
>
> >When you get information from the horse's mouth you better make sure 
> >you are at the right end.
>
> Amen!
>
> Tina
>
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> www.tinamanley.com
>
>
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Replies: Reply from Daniel Ridings <daniel.ridings@muspro.uio.no> (RE: [Leica] Panasonic Lumix DMC-LC1)
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