Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2004/01/30
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]First, David - I was serious when I said if it's the lens you want to use, go for it! I firmly believe that that equipment is best that best serves your needs. Period. And the Elmar certainly looks cool. Yes, there are people who will keep shooting film, and film will be with us for a long time to come. But I don't think we have begun to see the bottom in the film equipment market. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of David Rodgers Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:28 PM To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us Subject: Re: [Leica] Fw: [Large Format] Beth Keiser Shoots B&W 4x5 ForCampaign Coverage B.D. I never buy Leica expecting to sell it. Over the years I've replaced older with newer when I could afford it. Never made money on Leica. Broke even at best. But I never felt like I wasted money on anything Leica. I did on systems that evolved. As far as the future of film equipment, my view is that things are as glutlike right now as they're going to be. Demand for film equipment has been down for some years. Not too many companies are making film equipment. Most of what's for sale is existing stock. Supply gets depleted, demand levels out, prices hold steady or increase. For quality stuff, that is. I was surprised to see in the recent survey how many people are still using film only. That very fact tells me there's silver in them thar film canisters. It's not like anyone who reads the LUG can be digitally uninformed. Heck, reading the LUG almost convinced me that digital is the only way to go. Back to the Elmar, a 5-year old DSLR today isn't worth much today. And while an Elmar will probably lose 40% of it's value the moment I drive it off the lot, it won't depreciate much after that. Not in 5-years. Not in 20-years. It it will probably remain forever one of the sharpest lenses available. Plus, it looks so darn nifty. DaveR - ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. D. Colen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:38 PM Subject: RE: [Leica] Fw: [Large Format] Beth Keiser Shoots B&W 4x5 ForCampaign Coverage > Let me make a prediction - Five years from now the 90 elmar will, > comparatively, be worth what a used DSLR is today. It's been saddly > apparent for some time that the days of planning to get ones money out > of used Leica equipment have passed. And five years from now, used > film equipment will be a real glut on the market. This is not to say > that you shouldn't buy the lens; if it's what you want to shoot with, > buy it! But do not think of it in terms of what you can later recoup. > > B. D. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of David > Rodgers > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:31 PM > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > Subject: Re: [Leica] Fw: [Large Format] Beth Keiser Shoots B&W 4x5 > ForCampaign Coverage > > > Mark, > > The new 90 Elmar looks very interesting. Part of me wants to go out an > buy a DSLR. Another part says to buy a new Leica lens, either the 90 > or a Noct. > The Leica lens side is winning. I know that in 5 years the DSLR will be > > worth about as much as a postage stamp and we'll learn that bytes > actually fade with time. But the 90 will just be broken in. And, of > course, by then > Nikon will have a 10,000 scanner out. Not only will it scan full rolls > at > even higher res (squeezing even more from the 90), but it'll make > coffee, > too. A Mr. Coolscan? > > DaveR > > > > > When the new Nikon 5000 scanner comes out in a month or so with the > > full rollfilm feeder I'm going to find myself shooting a lot more > > 35mm film and a lot of that will be Leica M. 5 blocks down the > > street is a Kinko's who can run my film in 20 minutes uncut for a > > buck and change. The way I look > at > > it > > that's a cup of coffee away from being instant. > > I also say that because I'm dying to use the new 90 f4 Elmar in my > studio. > > And outdoors. It may be for awhile I'll be letting C41 replace my > > Xtol > as > > I'm trying to get my commercial act together and just a workflo was > they > > call it going in high gear. > > > http://www.leica-camera.com/produkte/msystem/objektive/makro/index_e.h > tm > l > > > > > > Mark Rabiner > > Photography > > Portland, Oregon > > http://rabinergroup.com/Catagorypages/PersonalWork.html > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see > > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > -- > To unsubscribe, see > http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html