Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/12/22
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Thanks Keith. All of that is self-evident for public places. But are malls public places? Daniel On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Keith R. Wessel wrote: > I do not know about Illinois. You probably could not do this in Wisconsin: > > (3) Public place of accommodation or amusement. > > (a) No person may do any of the following: > > 1. Deny to another or charge another a higher price than the > regular rate for the full and equal enjoyment of any public place > of accommodation or amusement because of sex, race, color, creed, > disability, sexual orientation, national origin or ancestry. > > 1m. Deny to an adult or charge an adult a higher price than the > regular rate for the full and equal enjoyment of a lodging > establishment because of age, subject to s. 125.07. > > 2. Give preferential treatment to some classes of persons in > providing services or facilities in any public place of > accommodation or amusement because of sex, race, color, creed, > sexual orientation, national origin or ancestry. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Ridings" <daniel.ridings@muspro.uio.no> > To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:59 AM > Subject: RE: [Leica] Inspired but arrested > > > > So ... access to the news is governed by access to money (private > > property). So I could open a mall in a suburb to Chicago, bar all > > non-white ethnic groups, and if I had enough sympathetic white customers > > (who would not let themselves be interviewed outside the mall) then this > > would be totally legal? > > > > Hmmm ... South Africa tried this for quite a while, but it didn't work in > > the long run. > > > > I still say wierd, and wierder for every minute. > > > > Daniel > > > > > > On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, B. D. Colen wrote: > > > > > Yes, a journalist WOULD have to get permission to interview people in > > > the mall IF the journalist was challenged by mall employees. Freedom of > > > the press does not give one the right to break laws; it gives one the > > > right to publish information one gathers. While police departments, > > > other local governmental authorities, and Congress, may chose to give > > > journalists certain privileges or rights, I'm unaware of any immunity > > > from trespassing laws. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > > [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Keith R. > > > Wessel > > > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:08 AM > > > To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Inspired but arrested > > > > > > > > > > Let's say the mall in in a posh outer suburb but that there are > > > > communication lines with the inner-city scum so that they turn up at > > > > the mall and bother these beautiful people out in the burbs. So the > > > > owners of the private property start barring certain elements from > > > > their malls. They hurt the neighborhood, so to say. > > > > > > > > Now this would be news. Would the journalist have to go to the PR > > > > people of the mall and ask their permission to do an article on racial > > > > > > > discrimination at the mall? > > > > > > Excellent point. It begs the question as to whether we as a society > > > seek to exclude the undesirables. I think that has been done with some > > > success in India. We once had a "Great Society" movement in this > > > country to provide opportunity for the less privileged. > > > > > > I am somewhat troubled by the distinction between journalist and > > > documentarian. Do the wonderful photographs posted today by John > > > Beeching not provide an historical slice of life which deserves respect > > > equal to that of the breaking news journalist? > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html > - -- To unsubscribe, see http://mejac.palo-alto.ca.us/leica-users/unsub.html