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Subject: RE: [Leica] Inspired but arrested
From: "Gerry Walden" <gwpics@lycos.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 07:51:57 -0000

Surely you were guilty of the offence of trespass and of no other unless you
became obstructive and abusive and this where the offence of 'disorderly
conduct' came from. Here in the UK trespass is a civil offence and not
subject to arrest by the authorities. Is it not the same in the US? If it is
the same, and the security people arrested you, have they not acted outside
of their powers and wrongfully detained you? Over to the lawyers.

It reiterates what has been often said, there is a world of difference
between 'a public place' and 'a place to which the public have access'.

Gerry

Gerry Walden LRPS
www.gwpics.com
Tel: 023 8046 3076

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- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us]On Behalf Of J. Gilbert
Plantinga
Sent: 21 December 2003 06:45
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] Inspired but arrested


You should immediately contact Bert Krages:

http://www.krages.com/lvaserv.htm

Bert is a lawyer and a photographer and he has been helpful to members
of the Street Photography list on Topica.com. His book belongs on every
photographer's bookshelf.


On Dec 21, 2003, at 12:39 AM, Keith R. Wessel wrote:

> Two days after I entered this list I posted a question about my
> interest in
> purchasing some used Leica equipment.  I am pleased to state that I was
> provided, off list, with some very helpful information.
>
> In response, I purchased (via the Internet auction -- you know what I
> mean)
> an M6 a Minilux and a 35mm f2 Summicron.   This equipment supplements
> my M3
> with lenses, Hasseblad, Nikons, Crown Graphic, etc.
>
> I  have enjoyed my opportunity to become acquainted with PAW and some
> really
> great photography by joining this list.  I have been inspired to say
> the
> least.  I have been a student of HCB for many years and this list
> inspired
> me to get out there and capture my world.
>
> Unfortunately, that has led to my arrest for trespassing and disorderly
> conduct.  Apparantely, two photographs with an M6 have led to my
> arrest for
> disorderly conduct.  I have disturbed the peace by taking two
> photographs
> with my new M6.  I disturbed someone by taking two photographs.
>
> I took these photograph at a mall  in Madison, WI.  I have been taking
> pictures since the 1960s and will post some of my work as time allows.
>  In
> the meantime, if anyone one this list can help me defend my behavior of
> taking pictures at a "private" mall (which is used by the general
> public) I
> would gratefully appreciate that same.
>
>
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