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Subject: Re: [Leica] re: The Decisive Moment is gone
From: "Rob Appleby" <rob@robertappleby.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 07:17:22 +0100
References: <12b001c3a222$6742e190$0200a8c0@Desk> <5.2.0.9.2.20031103125820.0296ade8@mail.infoave.net>

Well, some people are better at directing than others. And also, direction
need not mean _overspecifying_ - but it could mean saying, why don't you all
go over and sit in that doorway and play with the baby for a bit while I
take some pictures.

The fact is we are all actors all the time, and a good photographer knows
how to leverage that to get what he wants.

- -- Rob

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- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tina Manley" <images@InfoAve.Net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 7:06 PM
Subject: RE: [Leica] re: The Decisive Moment is gone


> At 10:20 AM 11/3/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >Does it matter that Kertesz directed some of his pictures? The photograph
of
> >two lovers kissing on a park bench is iconic - on postcards everywhere.
Does
> >it matter that they were his friends, who were in love, who he asked to
sit
> >on the bench and embrace. Or that Gary Winogrand - regarded by most to be
> >the "the" maestro of street photography - would "insert" his children in
a
> >scene ("Go on in
> > > there and do something interesting.") as the picture needed just that
one
> >additional thing for it to work.
> >
> >Not in the least they are still as real - and as fictitious - as if they
had
> >come across them by happenstance.
>
> It matters to me, as the photographer.  Somehow a spontaneous, unposed
> photograph tells more about the people in the photograph than about the
> photographer.  A photo like this
> one:  http://www.leica-gallery.net/tinamanley/image-29684.html
> tells me about the relationship between the father, mother, and baby.  If
I
> had directed them - now you sit here in the doorway and hold the baby and
> you hold out your hand to touch the baby's hand - then the photograph
would
> be about acting and directing, not about feelings.  It would be an ad for
> bluejeans or straw hats instead of a moment in real lives.  I hate
> "life-style" stock photographs for that reason.
>
> It might be subtle difference, but, to me, it's there.
>
> Tina
>
>
>
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> www.tinamanley.com
>
>
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