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Subject: Re: [Leica] Kodak Technical Pan 35mm Film
From: "Roland Smith" <roland@dnai.com>
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:13:11 -0700
References: <r02000200-1030-28BA4B54F6F411D7AAD8003065F48752@[10.0.1.4]>

Thank you Adam.  I'll try the Technidol first.

Best regards,
Roland
Oakland, California
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From: "Adam Bridge" <abridge@mac.com>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Kodak Technical Pan 35mm Film


> On 2003-10-04 roland@dnai.com (Roland Smith) thoughtfully wrote:
>
> >Does anyone use this film or have experience with it for general
photography
> >and especially landscapes?
> >
> >I want to try this film and am not sure what developer to use and for
what
> >duration for the development at 20c.  Please advise the ISO it yielded.
>
> I use technical pan in the developer specified by Kodak for photographic
use:
> Technidol. It comes in little packets that you mix up on a case by case
basis
> which makes it a bit expensive.
>
> I've been shooting it at 25 - it has extremely fine grain. I follow the
> development instructions religiously.
>
> Now if you look back in the archives, maybe a year or so, you'll fine some
folks
> who process it with their own chemistry and get a speed of 100 or so. It's
a
> LITTLE more grainy but very impressive. I think one of the guys is from
the
> North Bay area.
>
> It was Richard Comen who was doing it. Here's what he wrote back in 2001
(wow
> longer than I thought)
>
> I hope this helps. I like tech pan and intend to be doing some more
photography
> with it in the next month or so.
>
>
> --------
>
>
> Adam, if you are interested in experimenting further with Tech Pan you
> might try the following brew which I formulated after many years of
> experimenting. I now use Tech Pan exclusively for everything but low light
> photography. I shoot it at iso 100. It works beautifully with the split
> filtration enlarging. If you try it, let me know what you thin,.
>
> Richard
> Mendocino CA
>
> Directions for Pota-HC110 developer for processing Tech Pan at ASA 100:
>
> In 300 ml hot water mix 1 tablespoon Sodium Sulfite and 1/8 teaspoon
> Phenidone . I use the set of plastic measuring spoons that come in a set
> for kitchen use. To the above add 2 ml. HC110 syrup ( measure  with a
> child's medicine syringe found at any pharmacy ).
>
>
>
>                                                     2
>
>  The measuring spoons mentioned above are just fine, extreme accuracy is
> not necessary. Filter through coffee filter  that is placed in a funnel.
> Cool to 69 degrees F. Use stainless nikkor tank for one roll only. Discard
> developer after one roll, ( Phenidone developer oxidizes rapidly and
should
> be discarded after one roll). I place tank  in a tray of water that is 69
> degrees to keep temp constant. Develop for 6 minutes. After filling tank,
> rap tank to dislodge air bubbles, then give one gentle inversion over and
> back. Place tank in water bath of 68 degrees. Agitation:  Do not agitate
> until beginning of third minute and at that time one gentle inversion over
> and back. Repeat at top of each remaining minute.  At end of 6 min.,
drain,
> use short stop, and follow with rapid fix for aprox 2 min. Wash as usual,
> rinse in distilled  water for final rinse, then instead of foto flow, pour
> in rubbing alcohol ( I prefer it to foto flow.  It is often on special at
> pharmacies for 39 cents a bottle ). Let sit in alcohol for a minute or so,
> discard alcohol and hang film to dry ( no squeegee or sponges as that is a
> terrible thing  to do to wet film). Hang in dust free place. Because of
> variations of meters, camera shutters, thermometers, and other variables,
> you might want to adjust your time of development slightly.
>
> Since concocting the above brew formula, I have found that it simplifies
> life to mix 3 liters of the above brew ( use 10 x the brew formula ),
> filter as above and pour into 8 Oz. Brown glass bottles obtained from a
> pharmacy. Fill each bottle so that there is no air and screw on top
> tightly. I have found that using my last bottle 6 months after mixing
gives
> the same results as with the first bottle used right after mixing. All I
do
> is place a bottle into 69 degree water bath and when brew reaches the bath
> temp, I pour it into the tank.
>
> ASA 200 can be achieved  by increasing the developing temperature to 70
> degrees F. and following the rest of the above procedure. There will be a
> loss in shadow detail however.
>
> The above gives me the best negatives  I have ever made and they print
> beautifully. The negs may appear a bit thick to some but with split
> filtration even the most dense appearing highlights print beautifully.
The
> beauty of Tech Pan is that one can take a small portion of the neg and
> enlarge it to 11X14 with very little loss in quality. In full negative
> printing the detail is exquisite unlike no other film I have ever used.
>
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