Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/09/29

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Subject: RE: [Leica] More digital comments
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:54:09 -0400

First off, Jim, you know full well that I have NEVER said modern Leica
optics don't bring any value to photography; the latest aspheric M
lenses are among the best 35 mm lenses available, particularly in terms
of flare suppression. I do not believe, however, believe the claims of
people say they can look at slides on a light table and see the
difference between Leica slides and those shot with pro Canon or Nikon
lenses.

Also...The main reason I shoot Leica M is because it is the only true
pro-quality rangefinder body available since the demise of the Nikon and
Contax RFs. I have little doubt that if Nikon still made the SP - or
it's modern, matrix metered, equivalent, I'd be shooting Leica. But were
that the case, my guess is there wouldn't still be a Leica to shoot
with.

But the bottom line is that I DO shoot with Leica Ms, like the results I
get, but I am the Leica equivalent of an Easter Catholic or a Passover
Jew; I belong to the congregation but I don't worship regularly.
;-)

B. D.



- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Jim Laurel
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:35 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: Re: [Leica] More digital comments


BD, if you don't believe that Leica optics bring any value to
photography, why do you bother to use them at all?

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 9:38 AM
Subject: RE: [Leica] More digital comments


> Whatevah!:-)(Wonder if the large, red, script L in the corner of each 
> Leica slide helped you make your picks!:-) )
>
> Best
> B. D.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> [mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of John 
> Collier
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 12:02 PM
> To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
> Subject: [Leica] More digital comments
>
>
> As you all know, I am a die-hard slide user; and, amazingly enough, my

> family and friends like slide shows. YMMV. Last night a friend was 
> over showing slides from Easter Island and in the mix were a few b&w 
> digital images. He used a Canon G3 in raw mode which were converted to

> TIFFs and then outputted to slides. What can I say, I was impressed. 
> They were not good but they weren't bloody awful either -- remember 
> these are enlarged to 4 feet by 6 feet. Images with large elements and

> not too much fine detail looked OK even good. Images with lots of fine

> detail came off as somewhat fuzzy.
>
> I am not about to rush out and switch to digital but possibly the 
> technology only has to improve through a couple more generations 
> before it would give pretty good results; maybe even excellent 
> results. As those of you who push a lot of film through your cameras 
> know, Leicas look cheap compared to film and processing bills. Now all

> we need is a good digital camera with a M viewfinder! Please!!
>
> John Collier
>
> PS: As an overall impression, comparing the same slide film but not 
> locations or photographer, I thought that Leica images looked better. 
> Sorry for throwing that into the pot BD...
>
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