Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/08/11

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Subject: RE: [Leica] The Panhandler...
From: "bdcolen" <bdcolen@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 14:23:57 -0400

If one does as you suggest = "talk to then, explain what you're going to
do, and make sure you understand that THEY understand what you're going
to do" - then one is no longer taking "street photos," but rather is
posing photos, which is a whole different ball game. And, no, I don't
consider it exploitation if you ask someone one if you may photograph
them, and they freely say yes - or, for that matter, if you pay someone
to be your subject. But I'm not sure what you get out of that
photographically.

B. D.

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From: owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
[mailto:owner-leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us] On Behalf Of Adam
Bridge
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:21 PM
To: leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us
Subject: RE: [Leica] The Panhandler...


On 8/11/03 bdcolen@earthlink.net (bdcolen) thoughtfully wrote: 

>IF you believe that "street photography" exploits everyone who's a 
>subject, THEN you really have to believe that any photograph featuring 
>a subject who did not specifically ask to be photographed is exploitive

>- including photographs of our friends, relatives, children, etc. - 
>most of whom put up with being photographed because they feel somehow 
>compelled to. (I'm not saying that I believe that all photography is 
>seriously exploitive, I'm just carrying this argument to what I believe

>is a very logical conclusion.)

Excuse me, but that's hog wash, BD. I don't have to believe that at all,
nor is the situation remotely the same.

You can't exploit someone who gives informed consent. Most family
members fall into that category. I assume that if someone says "please,
don't" then you wouldn't take the photograph, even if it's your daughter
or grandson or what have you.

You don't have to ask to be photographed - but by responding to the
request to be photographed (affirmatively) then your family members
can't be exploited. They can say "no."

It works the same for street people. If you're willing to take the time
to see them as people, as individuals, talk to then, explain what you're
going to do, and make sure you understand that THEY understand what
you're going to do, then you won't be exploiting them.

Draw your lines fairly in this debate.

Adam
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