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Subject: [Leica] RE: RE: Johnny Deadman <lists@johnbrownlow.com>
From: "Felix Lopez de Maturana" <fmaturana@euskalnet.net>
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:44:25 +0200

>Actually I believe all the flagship high end EOS cameras like the EOS
>1v, EOS 1D and EOS 1Ds have shutter lag times of 55 ms.
>
>That's slower than my M, of course, but anyone who has actually used
>those Canon bodies (I have, the 1v) will know working with them is so>
>much faster, shutter lag or not. By the time I finish focusing the M,
>the 1v would have taken 9 perfectly focused shots :)
>
>To add insult to injury, each of those shots will have the optimum
plane
>of focus on the desired subject, without resorting to hyperfocal
>methods... The trick is to just use the centre focusing point - exactly
>like the M. AF, then recompose. With the M, focus, then
recompose...same
>method.....

>U can nail shots at f1.2 at 85mm perfectly right on the eyes with OFF
>CENTRED composition, either with multi point AF or plain old ground
>glass MF with the EOS 1v, while with the M, u'll be hoping that ur
brand
>new 75 f1.4 Summilux is working well with ur rangefinder. Take care too
>while recomposing for an off center composition - u just might move the
>Leica out of that shallow DOF :)
>
>But of course the M is still invaluable for wat the 1v cannot provide -
>small, discreet, lightweight, quiet shutter, quality M lenses, black
>paint....oops forget about the black paint :) That's why we're still
>using them ain't it?????
>
>M6, 1v - Each has their place in my Domke F2 :) I'm glad I have both.
>
>Boon Hwee

Hi Boon

However I own both the EOS 1V and 1Ds, the figure of 87 milliseconds lag
went from "Chasseur d'Images" who has the right laboratory for this kind
of measurement. Of course I cannot confirm this but I see the time is,
if not as quick as my M6/7, very speedy. 

But M cameras have some other advantages. Lack of noise. Weight (if M is
not a featherweight is not the "monster" both EOS are). Size, same
consideration. Optics, as very few Canon lenses reach the level of
modern ASPH Leica lenses and have much more size and weight.

On the other hand zooming is really usefull if images have not the
quality primes may get, and all kind of automation is, at least for me,
very usefull for concentrating on the image I want to capture. If
someone consider this as a huge and very expensive p&s I do not mind, as
far as images I get reach the level of quality I'm expecting to get.
Artistic value is another story.

I'm not going to argue the thread digital/film. I use, without the
shadow of a prejudice, both. But, I'm afraid, digital more and more is
winning my predilection.

So I use, and I'll follow doing so, both depending the kind of pictures
I'm going to get.

Felix


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