Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2003/07/30

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Subject: Re: [Leica] 90mm line-frame
From: Jerry Lehrer <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:38:11 -0700
References: <Pine.SOL.4.44-qp.0307302149130.5557-100000@hedvig.uio.no>

Daniel and original requester:

I have never had a frame line anomaly in any of my M series
Leicas, either before or after any type of servicing. Ever.

I still prefer the un-ambiguous frame lines of the M2 and M3.

Jerry

Daniel Ridings wrote:

> > Also, it seems that this particular line frame is vaguely less bright
> > than the others, or at least more sensitive to the angle at which I hold
> > the camera in front of my eye. Sometimes it 'disappears' from view.
>
> That's normal for an M6 rangefinder/viewfinder ... at least normal for the
> one put in my M3. I can never see the vertical frameline on the righthand
> side (90mm).
>
> > This does not harm my photography too much, but kind of annoys me having
> > spend quite a bit of money on a (presumably) unused camera.
>
> Not mine either. I use the 90mm on an M2 or an M4 now-a-days.
>
> > I am in a
> > bit of a dilemma, the camera is under guarantee so I can have it
> > repaired.
>
> I'm sure it is performing up to specifications. That's what I was told
> when I pointed out the problem with mine. :)
>
> > The thing is that I have heard rumours about the repair person
> > that this particular shop uses, which were not too favourable.
>
> I suspect he would really have to try hard to mess up things like that,
> ever they ever worked in the first place.
>
> > So the
> > alternative would be to leave it until it is CLA' some time in the
> > future. (which was to be expected after how many months for an M6ttl?
> > ;-))
>
> If you don't drop it in puddles or concrete you should be able to get by
> with 30 years or so (assuming you are using it regularly and keeping its
> moving parts lean and mean) :)
>
> > For one I would like to know if this type of distortion is familiar to
> > anyone, and what might have caused it and whether repair would require
> > major surgery. Next any advice on how to go about it would be welcome
> > too...
>
> It could very well be that the cause is the change from M4 to M6
> rangefinder construction caused this. I don't know ... it may very well be
> that if you are not lined up right so that you can see all four frame
> lines, then you are not lined up right for getting an accurate distance
> reading by using the focusing patch either. It is something of a moving
> target, depending on how well centered, off-centered, your eye is.
>
> It can be fixed. You probably don't want to do that if you can get a feel
> for how to line your sight up when looking through the viewfinder. It's a
> lot cheaper that way and an awful lot of people of managed for many years.
> Not all of them happily, but ...
>
> All the best,
> Daniel
>
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In reply to: Message from Daniel Ridings <daniel.ridings@muspro.uio.no> (Re: [Leica] 90mm line-frame)