Re: [Leica] Marc Small's statement that M6 is best built M camera

[grduprey@rockwellcollins.com]

There is no better proof than a user that has not had to repair his
instrument.  If the camera works without repairs, then what proof do you
have that it is not as good?  Just because you think the finish or feel is
better that does not give you reason to say the newer unit is inferior.  It
is highly the opinion of those on this list and elsewhere that Leica R
cameras a total junk.  I beg to differ, I have an SL and a R4SP that have
operated for 15 years with only one of them having a single failure and the
lenses are the best I have used to date and I have used both Nikon and
Canon cameras and lenses, I won't buy another one.  Most of those who claim
the Leica R cameras are junk have never even picked one up to try them.
All of the R users I have talked to love them and would readily buy
another.  Documentation usually shows the number of repairs a unit has had,
if there is none, that tells me they are of very well manufacture.

Gene



                                                                                                                                            
                      Seth Rosner                                                                                                           
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omigod! ROFLOL!! PIMP!! (for the faint of heart, that is an acronym, not a
word!)

The usual undocumented - and undocumentable - "for complex reasons." Marc
should produce a single Leica repair person not attached to Solms or
Northvale to state a single complex (or simple) reason that the build
quality of M6's is the best.

I am personally familiar with and have employed the services of the three
independent Leica service people in the United States best known by
reputation to LUG members. Every single one has stated to me explicitly
that
the build quality of the M2, M3, M4 and M5 exceeds that of any of the M6's.
Not true of the M4-2 or M4-P.

To say the contrary without documentation is pure bombast.

That said, I have the impression that attention to a flawless build quality
is Leica's goal with the MP. I hope to Heaven that I am right and that
Solms
achieves just that. An MP is on my to-buy list.

Seth         LaK 9

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From: "Mitch Alland" <malland@xsmail.com>
To: "leica-users" <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:26 PM
Subject: [Leica] Marc Small's statement that M6 is best built M camera


> Going through the LUG archives I came across the following posting by
> Marc Small:
>
> > As to an M, the later the better.  The M6 is a better-built camera,
> > for complex reasons, than the earlier models.  Not that the M3 is a
> > bad camera, or the M2.  Here is my advice:
> >
> > M3:     Get a late DS.  The early ones and very late single-strokes
> > are going way up in price due to collectors.  Have the DS changed to
> > SS and the flash sockets changed to PC.  Neither change costs much.
> >
> > M2:     Same as M3.  I don't particularly care for the M2, but it is a
> > hot item, and often costs more than an M3.
> >
> > M4:     Wow!  Avoid this turkey, despite the recent fall in prices.
> > Everything is adjustable, so something is always out of adjustment.  I
> > have owned several, and all were unsatisfactory.  This model has THE
> > reputation but, in general, is less satisfactory as a user camera than
> > the M3.
> >
> > M5:     Interesting, but too big.
> >
> > M4-2/M4-P:      Sleepers.  Great cameras, underpriced in the user
> > market.  Grab one if you can find it at a decent price, as you should
> > be able to.
> >
> > M6:     My choice.  Everything a user needs, no more, no less.  And
> > the best-built Leica yet, with the M6TTL.
> >
> > M6TTL:  Interesting, but too big.
>
> What are these complex reasons for which the M6 is a better-built
> camera than earlier models? Usually people seem to feel that the M6 is
> not built as well as the earlier models, particularly the M3.
>
> --Mitch/Bangkok
>
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