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Subject: Re: [Leica] was @#$@#$#@ foreigners..FU to all who agree withthis crap
From: Simon Lamb <simon@sclamb.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 01:15:14 +0100

Er....I don't think I did, I was replying to the other one!

On 21/7/03 12:20 am, "Jack McLain" <jmclainaz@comcast.net> wrote:

> er..... I think you got the wrong guy.  I never suggested that anyone
> "lighten up" (other than in print highlights).  I usually wait a decent
> period of time on a list before I get contentious!
> 
> There are two Jacks here (and both from Tucson).
> 
> Jack McLain
> Tucson, AZ
> http://jackmclain-photography.dotcommunity.net
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Lamb" <simon@sclamb.com>
> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] was @#$@#$#@ foreigners..FU to all who agree withthis
> crap
> 
> 
>> Nice one Jack!
>> 
>> I quote:
>> 
>> "But this discussion has become boring and probably would be best
> continued
>> between those true afficienados of  over-priced bracelets."
>> 
>> And you have the gall to tell me to lighten up!  You may be bored, many of
>> us are not.  Please continue to make use of the delete key, or do you
> intend
>> to censor the contents of this list?  If the latter, I take it we shall be
>> hearing from you again when the next thread about single malts comes up.
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> On 20/7/03 11:41 pm, "Jack Herron" <jherron@theriver.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Simon,
>>>   Come on, lighten up!  Ted told an amusing story about collecting, and
>>> finished with the basically core oriented plea to "shoot more frames",
> what
>>> this is all supposed to be about.  It hardly deserved the vitrolic and
>>> insulting "e-mail me and I will tell you where the delete key is."
>>>   I too, find the occasional diversion on the list interesting and
>>> amusing, and would not want them to stop.  But this discussion has
> become
>>> boring and probably would be best continued between those true
> afficienados
>>> of  over-priced bracelets.  I also know where my delete key is and have
> been
>>> using it after the novelty  of the discussion wore off.  However I did
> not
>>> join this list to either excersize my delete key, nor discuss jewelery.
>>>   Ted's message was gentle and appropriate.  I am sure he knows where
> his
>>> delete key is, and is also a model of manners you could learn from.
>>> Jack Herron
>>> 8118 E. 20th St.
>>> Tucson, AZ 85710
>>> 520 885-6933
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Simon Lamb" <simon@sclamb.com>
>>> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 3:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] was @#$@#$#@ foreigners..FU to all who agree
> withthis
>>> crap
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Ted
>>>> 
>>>> I really do feel compelled to respond to your message, particularly as
> you
>>>> seem to be signifying some displeasure at the ramblings about watches
> on
>>>> this 'Leica photography' forum.  I seem to remember that you are quite
>>> fond
>>>> of rambling about single malts (at one time on a thread that had this
> one
>>>> beaten for the number of messages posted), but I guess as an older and
>>>> respected member of this forum with more photographic credentials than
>>> many
>>>> of us can ever hope to achieve, it is OK for you to do that but not for
>>>> others.
>>>> 
>>>> In my view, which I am happy for you to disagree with, this forum is
> about
>>>> more than photography and more than Leicas.  It is about knowing
> people,
>>> and
>>>> forming relationships and understanding with them, without ever
> actually
>>>> meeting most of them.  I find it very in interesting that many Leica
>>> owners
>>>> share my passion for fine watches, as I am sure you do with those that
>>> share
>>>> your passion for single malts.
>>>> 
>>>> If we are 'gabbing' then do as you have suggested to others in the
> past,
>>> hit
>>>> the 'delete' key.  But for me, I like to hear about other things, other
>>>> interests, and learn more about those people I have only met in a
> virtual
>>>> sense.
>>>> 
>>>> Of course, we could have more threads such as ' I have these four M
>>> lenses,
>>>> which do you all think I should get next'.  Now that does get tedious
> very
>>>> quickly, and I do know where my delete key is.
>>>> 
>>>> Ted, sorry you are bored with the thread on watches.  If you need any
>>>> guidance, please email me and I will tell you where your delete key is.
>>>> 
>>>> Simon
>>>> 
>>>> On 20/7/03 2:27 pm, "Ted Grant" <tedgrant@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] was @#$@#$#@ foreigners.. this means watches I
>>> think.
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> When the '92 Winter Olympics closed our crew went to Lusaunne for a
>>> couple
>>>>> of days R&R and while looking in the window of a, please for give
> me...
>>>>> "watch store not a camera store.." I saw this incredible collector
> watch
>>> for
>>>>> my wife. How sweet.:-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now she's a collector, some of you know what that is, ;-) not
>>> cameras,"Lady
>>>>> Bugs!" Not live ones, everything and anything with a lady bug of some
>>> sort
>>>>> engraved, painted etc. So a gift of a "collector Lady Bug watch" was
>>> just
>>>>> the thing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unfortunately when I inquired of the shop keeper it was a price only
> the
>>>>> King of a rich country could afford. So that took care of that.:-( I
>>> missed
>>>>> the diamonds!
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, with the quick eye of a sharp shooting photojournalist I
>>> noticed,
>>>>> you're not going to believe this.... A Mickey Mouse watch! .... Yep
>>> that's
>>>>> right, a real honest to goodness Hollywood Mickey Mouse watch!!!!  How
>>> lucky
>>>>> could I be and asked "How much??"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Before I heard the price I was given a story about it being hand made
> by
>>> one
>>>>> of the most famous watch makers in all the world, Herr Timex of Upper
>>>>> Slobovia high in the Alps. "Gee this isn't a collector Lady Bug watch
>>> but I
>>>>> bet she'll love the story that goes with it." ;-) Cost a fortune! No
>>> wonder
>>>>> I've always been a poor photojournalist spending money on expensive
>>> things.
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I bought the story hook, line and watch. There's one born every
>>> minute.
>>>>> :-(
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why I bet I could've bought a several super size Cokes, or better, a
>>> good
>>>>> size Lagavulin. But this was for my, " She Who Must be Obeyed" nothing
>>> is to
>>>>> much for her.     ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-).
>>>>> 
>>>>> End of story and a pile of money ! There you go eh? :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh did she like it? Yep and a day later showed me the same watch in K
>>> Mart
>>>>> for $12.95 Canadian dollars. ;-) Oh well some photographers are born a
>>> few
>>>>> frames short of a full roll! ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Watches and at times, the waste gabbing about single malts and other
>>>>> nonsense, rather than picture taking makes us all short a bunch of
>>> frames on
>>>>> every roll! So get out there and shoot something! oooops, Take
> pictures
>>> of
>>>>> something! :-) It's easy, just don't turn your computer on.
> Have
>>> a
>>>>> nice photo day! :-)
>>>>> ted

> 



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