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Subject: Re: [Leica] was @#$@#$#@ foreigners..FU to all who agree with this crap
From: Simon Lamb <simon@sclamb.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 11:39:03 +0100

Greg

Lange und Sohne are in the German part, make 100% their own parts, movements
and watches and are, IMHO, up there with Patek in quality.

Simon

On 19/7/03 4:43 am, "Greg J. Lorenzo" <gregj.lorenzo@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Hi Nelson,
> 
> Actually for some models they once again do. They came out with a
> limited series of larger wrist watches (2000 Series) which use their
> Pellaton Caliber 5000 which was designed to be very similar to both
> their famous Caliber 89 and the finest automatic movement ever made the
> IWC Caliber 8541.
> 
> See this URL if you're interested:
> http://www.timezone.com/ticle.aspx?id=psttime&articleId=psttime631687631288297
> 847  
> 
> 
> IWC (International Watch Company) has been around since 1868 and I
> believe they are the only fine Swiss Watchmaker in the German part of
> Switzerland ( at Schaffhausen). The also have the singular honor of
> being the only Swiss manufacturing facility to have been bombed by the
> 8th US Airforce during W.W.II. IWC is the only Swiss Watchmaker to run
> an in-house watchmakers school. Many of today's finest craftsmen trained
> at IWC. Lange and Sohn is a sister company of IWC and many of their
> watchmakers started out at IWC.
> 
> BTW, IWC invented the automatic movement (Albert Pellaton) during the
> early 1950's and Hillary wore an IWC Automatic Watch (an Ingenieur I
> believe) when he climbed Mt. Everest.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> 
> Nelson Chan wrote:
> 
>> Jerry,
>> 
>> IWC do not make their own movement. I know only 2 manufacturer that makes
>> their watches 100%, Patek and AP.
>> 
>> Nelson
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jerry Lehrer" <jerryleh@pacbell.net>
>> To: <leica-users@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>; "Don Williams"
>> <dwilli10@san.rr.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] was @#$@#$#@ foreigners..FU to all who agree with this
>> crap
>> 
>> 
>>> Jean-Michel
>>> 
>>> Yes I know that a lot of the "name" swiss watches are just
>>> "assemblages" of components, but I know there must be some
>>> that are made 100% in house.  IWC comes to mind, though I
>>> know there must be more.
>>> 
>>> Jerry
>>> 
>>> Jean-Michel Tomaschett wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What is a "real" mechanical watch?
>>>> Do you think the majority of them are "really" hand-made?
>>>> 
>>>> A batteryless wristwatch made in Switzerland does not automatically mean
>>>> 
>> it
>> 
>>>> is handmade.
>>>> Most of the Swiss watch companies are not independent.
>>>> Please excuse my English, I live in watch-country.
>>>> 
>>>> Jean-Michel
>>>> 



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